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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 10 2014 23:22 GMT
#122301
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

like are u honestly going to argue storm dagger has any point
just stop ok
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
August 10 2014 23:25 GMT
#122302
i have a 47.06% wr in games where i bought boots fuck a movespeed boost
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
August 10 2014 23:26 GMT
#122303
On August 11 2014 08:21 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 07:49 iv~nk~j wrote:
On August 11 2014 07:23 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Can I hear some opinions on when we are finally getting the next balance patch?

Weren't there rumors on reddit about it being released in last week already?

the actual word of valve blogpost said by end of august

The Valve post didn't say anything about a balance patch though, just compendium stretch goals and Techies.

The reddit thing was confirmed to be some guy making shit up for attention, and both Matt and Bruno have said they don't expect a balance patch til September at the earliest

The post TI2 patch took about a month (the tournament ended on September 2, patch went live on October 4), while TI3's took over 2 months (August 11 vs. October 21). 6.79 was a huge patch though, so I wouldn't expect 2 months. Late August is a possibility, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't til September.


there will most likely be at least a small balance patch with the next patch. There are some big issues with a couple of things right now, vacuum really needs a 2 second nerf.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 10 2014 23:32 GMT
#122304
Necrolyte could also use some more base armor, I think 1 would do the trick guys-
In the woods, there lurks..
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
August 10 2014 23:48 GMT
#122305
the retards i have to put up with in all my pub games really need a buff
FTD
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 10 2014 23:50 GMT
#122306
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

and if you were able to manage your mana properly you wouldnt need a blink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 11 2014 00:01 GMT
#122307
yo i just remembered, did i miss it or did valve not release booth sound from ti4 yet
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 11 2014 00:14 GMT
#122308
On August 11 2014 09:01 teddyoojo wrote:
yo i just remembered, did i miss it or did valve not release booth sound from ti4 yet

the vods got muted
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 11 2014 00:18 GMT
#122309
but were there actually vods with the teamchat sound?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 11 2014 00:20 GMT
#122310
On August 11 2014 07:59 teddyoojo wrote:
storm blink dagger is probably the worst dagger i could imagine

Thank you! People always told me my dagger AM and QoP were the worst possible. Good to know I'm not alone in thinking they're not the worst builds.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 00:25:13
August 11 2014 00:24 GMT
#122311
On August 11 2014 05:36 teddyoojo wrote:
http://dotamax.com/hero/rate/?ladder=solo
1v1 practice winrates
leshrac 58% )))

I feel like the VH bracket only gives a better picture. Even if the sample size is pathetic on some heroes (Spectre with her 200 games and 18% winrate) -
http://dotamax.com/hero/rate/?ladder=solo&skill=vh


Jakiro being number 2 is a bit of a surprise to me. I mean, liquid fire annihilates towers but it's still weird.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 11 2014 00:28 GMT
#122312
On August 11 2014 09:24 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 05:36 teddyoojo wrote:
http://dotamax.com/hero/rate/?ladder=solo
1v1 practice winrates
leshrac 58% )))

I feel like the VH bracket only gives a better picture. Even if the sample size is pathetic on some heroes (Spectre with her 200 games and 18% winrate) -
http://dotamax.com/hero/rate/?ladder=solo&skill=vh


Jakiro being number 2 is a bit of a surprise to me. I mean, liquid fire annihilates towers but it's still weird.

`liquid fire and dual breath is pretty strong
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 11 2014 00:30 GMT
#122313
liquid fire rapes everything
i like how for vh sf is picked more than all other heroes combined pretty much
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 11 2014 00:31 GMT
#122314
this blink dagger storm shit is the funniest thing i've heard since warlock lycan counters
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 11 2014 00:37 GMT
#122315
i believe PA bfury farms faster against bfury AM
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
August 11 2014 00:39 GMT
#122316
On August 11 2014 08:50 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

and if you were able to manage your mana properly you wouldnt need a blink


Did you even read the post right?


Blink dagger on Storm makes you able to Solo kill pretty much any one early on thanks to the mana savings.

You can gank just too well. Also, instant stun.

I actually dare you to play 5 Storm games with dagger first storm, and gank as soon as you get it, and then tell your experience.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44309 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 00:46:36
August 11 2014 00:43 GMT
#122317
Storm dagger is ok for initiation. Saves shit ton of mana. You usually can kill anything if you get close enough as storm even without the jump damage. Especially early-midgame.

Didn't dendi buy this once for storm?

On August 11 2014 02:33 Acritter wrote:
When you get to that level, it's 90% about whether or not you can function as a team. Teamwork>all, boys.

yeah ! i remember a lot of pros/personalities say MMR is overrated. I think getting really high mmr is a way to get recognized like excalibur or ABD.

this is a quote
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 11 2014 00:45 GMT
#122318
On August 11 2014 09:39 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 08:50 Erasme wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

and if you were able to manage your mana properly you wouldnt need a blink


Did you even read the post right?


Blink dagger on Storm makes you able to Solo kill pretty much any one early on thanks to the mana savings.

You can gank just too well. Also, instant stun.

I actually dare you to play 5 Storm games with dagger first storm, and gank as soon as you get it, and then tell your experience.

i only needed one game of it to see how terrible it is
maybe its faster when storm only has lvl 1 ball, but at 11 its clearly worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
August 11 2014 00:55 GMT
#122319
On August 11 2014 09:45 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 09:39 TMG26 wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:50 Erasme wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

and if you were able to manage your mana properly you wouldnt need a blink


Did you even read the post right?


Blink dagger on Storm makes you able to Solo kill pretty much any one early on thanks to the mana savings.

You can gank just too well. Also, instant stun.

I actually dare you to play 5 Storm games with dagger first storm, and gank as soon as you get it, and then tell your experience.

i only needed one game of it to see how terrible it is
maybe its faster when storm only has lvl 1 ball, but at 11 its clearly worse


That is the point, it's for the early ganks. So that you don't have to wait for the orchid to gank. Or pray for an haste/dd rune.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
August 11 2014 00:58 GMT
#122320
You're throwing 2k down the drain for early ganks
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