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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 23:01:17
August 10 2014 22:20 GMT
#122281
On August 11 2014 07:07 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 01:45 goody153 wrote:
Maybe that was akke. I also seem to remember LD saying a good player who only does random stuff when playing solo thus having a low mmr. Don't remember who that is though.

about blink dagger on Storm:

It's more than legit..

Not really.

You can say you save mana by using blink, but it also gives 0 increased mana pool and 0 increased mana regen.

It's so much gold on an item that gives you 0 stats. That's like half an Orchid and Orchid is one of those items that the earlier storm gets it, it becomes way more dangerous. Like Storm's Orchid and Weaver's linkens has pretty similar timings. If you can get Orchid before linkens you can solo kill weaver and delaying it a lot further. But if he get linkens when you get Orchid that is no longer a possibility.

If you have that much mana problems with Storm you just need to play him better tbh.
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rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
August 10 2014 22:23 GMT
#122282
Can I hear some opinions on when we are finally getting the next balance patch?

Weren't there rumors on reddit about it being released in last week already?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 10 2014 22:26 GMT
#122283
On August 11 2014 07:23 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Can I hear some opinions on when we are finally getting the next balance patch?

Weren't there rumors on reddit about it being released in last week already?

Whenever icefrog decides to release it
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2014 22:33 GMT
#122284
u made me vomit a little in my mouth with that blink dagger on storm
like what the actual fuck
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 10 2014 22:41 GMT
#122285
On August 11 2014 07:33 FinestHour wrote:
u made me vomit a little in my mouth with that blink dagger on storm
like what the actual fuck

If you need to initiate without using mana
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 10 2014 22:43 GMT
#122286
Don't make a blink on Storm early. Like I could see it being good lategame when the storm is the only hex carrier and initiator and you absolutely 100% need to hex a guy before he bkbs to win a teamfight and win the game, so you buy the blink and smoke as a surprise or some weird shit like that. :D
super gg
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 22:43:33
August 10 2014 22:43 GMT
#122287
On August 11 2014 07:33 FinestHour wrote:
u made me vomit a little in my mouth with that blink dagger on storm
like what the actual fuck


Almost 5k mmr here can confirm that dagger on storm is actually legit versus certain line ups. I can't be bothered checking dotabuff for item win rates but I'm pretty sure storms who go dagger have higher win rate than storms who rushed orchid.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
August 10 2014 22:45 GMT
#122288
^ Just checked, it's about 60% for blink (10k or so games) and 52% for orchid. (1.5 mil games)
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 10 2014 22:48 GMT
#122289
winrates on dotabuff means nothing

rapier has like 200% winrate, should you rush it every game? no
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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
August 10 2014 22:49 GMT
#122290
On August 11 2014 07:23 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Can I hear some opinions on when we are finally getting the next balance patch?

Weren't there rumors on reddit about it being released in last week already?

the actual word of valve blogpost said by end of august
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 10 2014 22:51 GMT
#122291
On August 11 2014 07:48 solidbebe wrote:
winrates on dotabuff means nothing

rapier has like 200% winrate, should you rush it every game? no

But unlike Rapier, blink dagger does not drop upon death. But I agree, it's not good against all lineups
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 10 2014 22:58 GMT
#122292
On August 11 2014 07:43 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 07:33 FinestHour wrote:
u made me vomit a little in my mouth with that blink dagger on storm
like what the actual fuck


Almost 5k mmr here can confirm that dagger on storm is actually legit versus certain line ups. I can't be bothered checking dotabuff for item win rates but I'm pretty sure storms who go dagger have higher win rate than storms who rushed orchid.

its garbage
the reason why it has a high % wr is because people buy it when they won
people forget that ball lightning actually deals a lot of damage
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 10 2014 22:59 GMT
#122293
storm blink dagger is probably the worst dagger i could imagine
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
August 10 2014 23:09 GMT
#122294
On August 11 2014 07:43 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 07:33 FinestHour wrote:
u made me vomit a little in my mouth with that blink dagger on storm
like what the actual fuck


Almost 5k mmr here can confirm that dagger on storm is actually legit versus certain line ups. I can't be bothered checking dotabuff for item win rates but I'm pretty sure storms who go dagger have higher win rate than storms who rushed orchid.

im pretty sure nahaz digs your post
FTD
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2014 23:09 GMT
#122295
MFW WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO USE DOTABUFF ITEM WIN PERCENTAGE AS JUSTIFICATION
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
AbareKiller
Profile Joined May 2014
456 Posts
August 10 2014 23:15 GMT
#122296
Blink Storm is an OK item after Orchid + Hex (+ BKB) I think. Blink Hex is still the best initiation there is for pick-offs, and you save mana on the initial zip
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
August 10 2014 23:16 GMT
#122297
On August 11 2014 07:48 solidbebe wrote:

rapier has like 200% winrate, should you rush it every game?

yes
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 10 2014 23:19 GMT
#122298
On August 11 2014 08:09 FinestHour wrote:
MFW WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO USE DOTABUFF ITEM WIN PERCENTAGE AS JUSTIFICATION

i have 47% winrate with a tp fuck whoever said always carry tp u suck
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
August 10 2014 23:20 GMT
#122299
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 23:24:52
August 10 2014 23:21 GMT
#122300
On August 11 2014 07:49 iv~nk~j wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 07:23 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Can I hear some opinions on when we are finally getting the next balance patch?

Weren't there rumors on reddit about it being released in last week already?

the actual word of valve blogpost said by end of august

The Valve post didn't say anything about a balance patch though, just compendium stretch goals and Techies.

The reddit thing was confirmed to be some guy making shit up for attention, and both Matt and Bruno have said they don't expect a balance patch til September at the earliest

The post TI2 patch took about a month (the tournament ended on September 2, patch went live on October 4), while TI3's took over 2 months (August 11 vs. October 21). 6.79 was a huge patch though, so I wouldn't expect 2 months. Late August is a possibility, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't til September.
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