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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44309 Posts
August 10 2014 14:03 GMT
#122241
how about AA ? i can't think of anything it does for AA

silencer also ..
this is a quote
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 14:07:27
August 10 2014 14:04 GMT
#122242
Lycan? Pretty useless given your ulti already fits the escape role, and you don't really need much initiation.

SB? Already has charge for escape/initiation

KOTL?

Brood? If you aren't taking damage you are pretty much untouchable anyway

Also seems pretty weird for someone like a weaver

AA I could see it purely as a catching up tool to land your slow in chasing situations. Silencer doesn't really have any means of catching up/escaping ganks and his nukes aren't massive range so might have some uses
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
August 10 2014 14:07 GMT
#122243
On August 10 2014 22:58 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 22:50 cecek wrote:
I was thinking... who's the worst hero with a blink? One of the blink heroes? I don't think it's too bad with Storm, Ball Lightning is pretty slow, so getting blink can give you a much better initiation and save you mana. Similar with Void, blink chrono is much faster than time walk chrono. On Qop and AM you can do some funny stuff like blinking into the enemy team, dropping your spells (abyssal + manta on AM) killing one hero and blinking out with your spell blink. Then I thought maybe Elder Titan could be the worst blink hero? None of your spells really benefit from it. your ult has huge range, Echo Stopm is a long channel, and you can just spirit in for natural order aura. Although, if you have a shiva and a bkb, blinking in after you put spirit on top of the enemy team could be huge. The point is that the item is way way too strong, it's actually hard to find a hero that doesn't want to buy it. I wonder how icefrog fixes it in the next patch.

CK , DP?

i can't of anything it does for CK

i remember where i played against a Qop with blink dagger, linkens(i think) and bkb .. and our team only has slow

we were fucked badly .. the player was playing exhibitions with us .. we can't even lock him down .. or catch him ..; almost everyone in our team brought dagger

it was not fun


CK is actually really useful to have dagger on. The first stun can often be fogged. I wouldn't buy it, but very useful.

ET is a strong contender for worst blink dagger user. Visage is also pretty bad.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 10 2014 14:08 GMT
#122244
It's not about who has something like blink. It's about has the least use for one. Anyone can use it to escape almost equally, so write that off. So who is the least effective at using it offensively? I'd say AA is a good pick actually
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 14:16:18
August 10 2014 14:12 GMT
#122245
On August 10 2014 23:08 Qbek wrote:
It's not about who has something like blink. It's about has the least use for one. Anyone can use it to escape almost equally, so write that off. So who is the least effective at using it offensively? I'd say AA is a good pick actually


Writing off the escaping reason is pretty silly, as some people don't really need the added escape, like AM/Storm/Lycan/Brood/Weaver. Sure having the extra escape could be useful, but since these guys already having amazing escape tools, wasting an item slot that could of gone towards something else seems like more of a waste than getting it on someone like AA, who doesn't have any escape.

Also, AA has more flexibility in his item builds as it isn't nearly as important for him to have a perfect item combo late game to fight the enemy carry. If it gets to 6 slots on both carries and your weaver wasted one slot on a blink that does nothing for him against the enemy carry then he will probably lose the carry v carry fight, where if your AA wasted it on a blink you could still actually win the fight?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 14:15:26
August 10 2014 14:14 GMT
#122246
Yeah, AA is pretty bad, support AA at least. On mid AA it might be pretty good, because you have enough burst to solo kill people (and having blink makes your roaming much better) and you will be buying a hex eventually.
super gg
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 10 2014 14:14 GMT
#122247
Suddenly Vampire the masquerade soundtrack on sing's stream.
So gud.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
August 10 2014 14:26 GMT
#122248
On August 10 2014 22:26 goody153 wrote:
team
team
team
GO
GO
GO
GO
Oh may gawd
Oh may gawd
Oh may gawd

ez kathka
ez kathka

sometimes his pubmates as time goes on becomes infected on how he talks .. and what the hell is he playing ? goat simulator ?

seriously he must probably be the most relaxed dota stream i have seen ..

easiest kathka of my life.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 15:09:45
August 10 2014 14:29 GMT
#122249
On August 10 2014 22:58 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 22:50 cecek wrote:
I was thinking... who's the worst hero with a blink? One of the blink heroes? I don't think it's too bad with Storm, Ball Lightning is pretty slow, so getting blink can give you a much better initiation and save you mana. Similar with Void, blink chrono is much faster than time walk chrono. On Qop and AM you can do some funny stuff like blinking into the enemy team, dropping your spells (abyssal + manta on AM) killing one hero and blinking out with your spell blink. Then I thought maybe Elder Titan could be the worst blink hero? None of your spells really benefit from it. your ult has huge range, Echo Stopm is a long channel, and you can just spirit in for natural order aura. Although, if you have a shiva and a bkb, blinking in after you put spirit on top of the enemy team could be huge. The point is that the item is way way too strong, it's actually hard to find a hero that doesn't want to buy it. I wonder how icefrog fixes it in the next patch.

CK , DP?

i can't of anything it does for CK

i remember where i played against a Qop with blink dagger, linkens(i think) and bkb .. and our team only has slow

we were fucked badly .. the player was playing exhibitions with us .. we can't even lock him down .. or catch him ..; almost everyone in our team brought dagger

it was not fun

I think DP with dagger is alright.More chasing potential to her.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
August 10 2014 15:17 GMT
#122250
Lmao at the Dendi thread on Reddit.
If this is all we're heading towards to with this whole esports bullshit - the world where entertaining crowds is the end in itself - then I'm glad you excited lot will find what you want and that I didn't sign up.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 15:26:48
August 10 2014 15:26 GMT
#122251
that dota manga is pretty cool.
maybe thats how dota2 makes inroads into japan
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3316 Posts
August 10 2014 15:27 GMT
#122252
On August 11 2014 00:17 makmeatt wrote:
Lmao at the Dendi thread on Reddit.
If this is all we're heading towards to with this whole esports bullshit - the world where entertaining crowds is the end in itself - then I'm glad you excited lot will find what you want and that I didn't sign up.

So because one or two redditors (which by itself isn't considered that good a community to begin with) were mad because dendi didn't entretain as much as Sing and Chat was sub mode (so he was also a twitch copypasta-er, another example of great community), the entire world is doomed. Ok.

TBH I like to watch personal streams for the personality and I rather watch Waga or Sing because of that. If I want to watch srs doto I watch tournament stream
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 10 2014 15:35 GMT
#122253
On August 10 2014 22:50 cecek wrote:
I was thinking... who's the worst hero with a blink? One of the blink heroes? I don't think it's too bad with Storm, Ball Lightning is pretty slow, so getting blink can give you a much better initiation and save you mana. Similar with Void, blink chrono is much faster than time walk chrono. On Qop and AM you can do some funny stuff like blinking into the enemy team, dropping your spells (abyssal + manta on AM) killing one hero and blinking out with your spell blink. Then I thought maybe Elder Titan could be the worst blink hero? None of your spells really benefit from it. your ult has huge range, Echo Stopm is a long channel, and you can just spirit in for natural order aura. Although, if you have a shiva and a bkb, blinking in after you put spirit on top of the enemy team could be huge. The point is that the item is way way too strong, it's actually hard to find a hero that doesn't want to buy it. I wonder how icefrog fixes it in the next patch.

He's just gonna have to reintroduce the mana cost. You can increase the cost to the point where it's not viable for anyone to get it, sure. You can increase the cooldown so that it becomes obnoxious to use. None of that changes the fact that any hero can get free mobility, and that's the best thing there is.

And really, it's not all that BAD that it's in the game. The item's really cool, the mechanics are interesting, and the heroes that benefit from zero mana Blink are by far and large ones that offer interesting aspects to gameplay. Really, I'd just like a Shadow Blade buff so that it becomes a question again between the two items.

Can you imagine how godawful DOTA2 would become if there wasn't any initiation?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 15:42:30
August 10 2014 15:42 GMT
#122254
i really like the lack of mana cost since im a big str initiator player. heroes like sandking and slardar really benefit from it. sandking has like 315 mana at 6 while it costs 305 mana to use just burrow and epi. having to spend 75 extra on blink would force a lot of heroes to spend a little money on int if they want to be badass initiators.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 10 2014 16:21 GMT
#122255
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2d5jmj/team_ehug_recruiting_players_for_our_new_roster/
ROFLMAO HAHAHAHHA
ehugs at it again
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44309 Posts
August 10 2014 16:24 GMT
#122256
On August 11 2014 00:17 makmeatt wrote:
Lmao at the Dendi thread on Reddit.
If this is all we're heading towards to with this whole esports bullshit - the world where entertaining crowds is the end in itself - then I'm glad you excited lot will find what you want and that I didn't sign up.

actually when it comes to personal streams i usually favor the more entertaining streams ...

hence singsing, RTZ , EE(his flaming is hilarious at times), sheever(actually sheever stream is entertaining cause she parties with pros a lot and i don't often find her stream without a pro in her party or a personality in dota 2)

maybe it's just that people expect something entertaining in player stream since the fulfillment of high skill games are given by tournaments ..
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44309 Posts
August 10 2014 16:25 GMT
#122257
On August 11 2014 01:21 teddyoojo wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2d5jmj/team_ehug_recruiting_players_for_our_new_roster/
ROFLMAO HAHAHAHHA
ehugs at it again

hmmm 5k mmr requirement

i remember some pro who doesn't have a pro-level mmr .. was it ppd who has 4k mmr ? i forgot
this is a quote
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 16:29:48
August 10 2014 16:29 GMT
#122258
On August 11 2014 01:25 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 01:21 teddyoojo wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2d5jmj/team_ehug_recruiting_players_for_our_new_roster/
ROFLMAO HAHAHAHHA
ehugs at it again

hmmm 5k mmr requirement

i remember some pro who doesn't have a pro-level mmr .. was it ppd who has 4k mmr ? i forgot

PPD has around 6k MMR.

Akke is around 5k or something because he never ladders. Maybe you were thinking of him.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 10 2014 16:30 GMT
#122259
well i guess mason to ehug isnt happening
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 10 2014 16:42 GMT
#122260
MMY was sub 5k
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