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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 11 2014 05:17 GMT
#122361
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 11 2014 05:18 GMT
#122362
global silence applies to bkb but if you bkb after global you can dispel it but if enemy has refresher he can ult again so you will be silenced thru bkb only counter is to buy refresher too to counter it

we must go deeper
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 05:48:48
August 11 2014 05:48 GMT
#122363
why are you mad that there are basic mechanics of the game you haven't grasped yet
isn't that your fault

On August 11 2014 14:18 icystorage wrote:
global silence applies to bkb but if you bkb after global you can dispel it but if enemy has refresher he can ult again so you will be silenced thru bkb only counter is to buy refresher too to counter it

we must go deeper

m a n t a
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 11 2014 06:20 GMT
#122364
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 11 2014 06:34 GMT
#122365
On August 11 2014 15:20 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle


LD's entangle is an ensnare. Frostbite is the only other thing that is an entangle that isn't tree ult.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 11 2014 06:40 GMT
#122366
The fact that ghost sceptor dispell some spells is just weird. Or what exactly can a diffusal blade purge? I know the most obvious use is to purge away ghost sceptor itself. What about SD ultimate, dat purge too?

DOTA hard game.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 06:52:19
August 11 2014 06:48 GMT
#122367
if its a single target ult with a disable component it goes through bkb.
warlock, treant, enigma and void are the only(????????) exceptions.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 11 2014 06:55 GMT
#122368
On August 11 2014 15:34 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:20 Nevuk wrote:
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle


LD's entangle is an ensnare. Frostbite is the only other thing that is an entangle that isn't tree ult.

Troll Trap.

I wanna say there is something else as well...

Oh right naga net.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 11 2014 06:56 GMT
#122369
i'm like an anti-bashlord
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 11 2014 06:58 GMT
#122370
On August 11 2014 15:48 PassiveAce wrote:
if its a single target ult with a disable component it goes through bkb.
warlock, treant, enigma and void are the only(????????) exceptions.

I think the only single target disable, ults are Beastmaster Roar and Batrider Laso? Anything else? Also, does warlock golem stun go through BKB?
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 11 2014 06:58 GMT
#122371
On August 11 2014 15:55 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:34 rebdomine wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:20 Nevuk wrote:
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle


LD's entangle is an ensnare. Frostbite is the only other thing that is an entangle that isn't tree ult.

Troll Trap.

I wanna say there is something else as well...

Oh right naga net.

Is meepo net an ensnare? I know it's different from Troll Trap and Naga Net in that it doesn't cancel TP. Or am I wrong?
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 11 2014 07:00 GMT
#122372
On August 11 2014 15:58 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:48 PassiveAce wrote:
if its a single target ult with a disable component it goes through bkb.
warlock, treant, enigma and void are the only(????????) exceptions.

I think the only single target disable, ults are Beastmaster Roar and Batrider Laso? Anything else? Also, does warlock golem stun go through BKB?

yeah bane and lc and prob a shit ton more il think of when its not 3am and im not drunk
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 11 2014 07:00 GMT
#122373
On August 11 2014 15:55 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:34 rebdomine wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:20 Nevuk wrote:
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle


LD's entangle is an ensnare. Frostbite is the only other thing that is an entangle that isn't tree ult.

Troll Trap.

I wanna say there is something else as well...

Oh right naga net.


Aren't those ensnares rather than entangle?

Ensnare - can't move, can attack
Entangle - can't move, can't attack
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 11 2014 07:19 GMT
#122374
On August 11 2014 15:58 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:55 Comeh wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:34 rebdomine wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:20 Nevuk wrote:
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle


LD's entangle is an ensnare. Frostbite is the only other thing that is an entangle that isn't tree ult.

Troll Trap.

I wanna say there is something else as well...

Oh right naga net.

Is meepo net an ensnare? I know it's different from Troll Trap and Naga Net in that it doesn't cancel TP. Or am I wrong?

Pretty sure Meepo's earthbind cancels TP, and other channeling spells. The difference is that it won't do it through BKB, unlike naga net
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 11 2014 07:35 GMT
#122375
On August 11 2014 16:19 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:58 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:55 Comeh wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:34 rebdomine wrote:
On August 11 2014 15:20 Nevuk wrote:
On August 11 2014 14:17 SKC wrote:
Thats something being an entangle effect, not particular of trees ult.

What's entangle beside tree ult anymore? Frostbite? I'm pretty sure even LD's entangle isn't an actual entangle


LD's entangle is an ensnare. Frostbite is the only other thing that is an entangle that isn't tree ult.

Troll Trap.

I wanna say there is something else as well...

Oh right naga net.

Is meepo net an ensnare? I know it's different from Troll Trap and Naga Net in that it doesn't cancel TP. Or am I wrong?

Pretty sure Meepo's earthbind cancels TP, and other channeling spells. The difference is that it won't do it through BKB, unlike naga net

Earthbind doesn't cancel TP if you reapply it on target that is already affected
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 11 2014 08:16 GMT
#122376
Valve should really add game mode where each player may ban ~5 heroes before the game starts (i. e. in the pregame-menu where you select the game mode). I'm so sick of tinkers, faceless voids and ember spirits, and even in my sd or rd games, one of them almost always is involved.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 11 2014 08:17 GMT
#122377
least played mode?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
August 11 2014 09:03 GMT
#122378
On August 11 2014 15:58 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 15:48 PassiveAce wrote:
if its a single target ult with a disable component it goes through bkb.
warlock, treant, enigma and void are the only(????????) exceptions.

I think the only single target disable, ults are Beastmaster Roar and Batrider Laso? Anything else? Also, does warlock golem stun go through BKB?


Clockwerk Hook stun goes through bkb iirc.
Romanes eunt domus
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 09:22:04
August 11 2014 09:21 GMT
#122379
clock hook is AOE, not single target
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 11 2014 09:31 GMT
#122380
Bane fiend's grip is a single target disable ult
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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