On May 31 2012 05:23 TheWarbler wrote: SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper
Very dumb statement, that's like saying every hero can win mid lane with good play.
It's not a dumb statement, entirely. SF has the kit to dominate mid completely and utterly if the match-up really was 1v1 with no other players affecting it. Once he's gotten a few last hits in his damage will be plenty to last hit and he can easily nuke down waves to force the enemy to give up on EXP and gold if he wants to go for runes as well.
This is the problem - if the person he is laning against is competent, its pretty difficult for SD to stay at the same pace with other carries. In my opinion, he needs a babysitter to be truly effective to help with last hitting + denying. Edit: Oh, this still doesn't solve one of his biggest problems - he's extremely vulnerable to smoke ganks.
I have took on players with SF at my skill level when I am at a hero disadvantage. I would consider my self high-skill. He can lane against anyone and get farm and levels.
I played only 1 SF game where I dominated mid. It was against a pretty noob Pudge who chose to eat a few of my auto-attacks just to deny, he wasn't even lasthitting, just denying every creep. Or at least he tried, it was so transparent I could a) get the creep and b)auto-attack him. Every other game I got the shit ganked out of me.
SS was intentionally nerfed for the SF vs SS matchup to have 480 range instead of 500.
The main issue with SF mid isn't the pure 1v1 matchup, it's that he's so easily ganked by supports from other lanes, especially with smoke. If SF can be held below level 7 it slows his snowballing tremendously.
Short of a player being totally outclassed by a Pudge or Tiny or Zeus or similar ganker it is very difficult to stop SF from reaching level 7 solo, which is the whole point of sending him mid.
No Test Build Today We won't be publishing a Test Build today as we are currently busy (proving Cyborgmatt wrong again) putting the final touches on a bigger than usual update.
We expect a new build to be ready tomorrow and will keep you guys updated if plans change.
Just saw this on the dev forums. Hinting at a multiple hero update?
Ok these cosmetic items are fucking awesome. Seriously. I love Valve. I will gladly pay for cosmetic shit of the quality they are planning on providing.
Super excited for the update tomorrow. Hopes for Templar Assassin. Lanaya, you're my girl!
On May 31 2012 11:25 Hoban wrote: Ok these cosmetic items are fucking awesome. Seriously. I love Valve. I will gladly pay for cosmetic shit of the quality they are planning on providing.
Super excited for the update tomorrow. Hopes for Templar Assassin. Lanaya, you're my girl!
Honestly, the Juggernaut skins are the best part of this all.
On May 31 2012 12:04 flamewheel wrote: bad kimberly
If there is a bundle that gives me flamewheel babies then I am bankrupt. Just flamewheel babies for everything. Projectiles, bloodseeker skins, you name it.
But seriously, if they give me bambi chantress...I will love valve even more than I already do.
On May 31 2012 12:04 flamewheel wrote: bad kimberly
If there is a bundle that gives me flamewheel babies then I am bankrupt. Just flamewheel babies for everything. Projectiles, bloodseeker skins, you name it.