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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 21:48:05
May 30 2012 21:45 GMT
#11881
On May 31 2012 06:35 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 05:40 Goshawk. wrote:
On May 31 2012 05:23 TheWarbler wrote:
SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper


Very dumb statement, that's like saying every hero can win mid lane with good play.

It's not a dumb statement, entirely.
SF has the kit to dominate mid completely and utterly if the match-up really was 1v1 with no other players affecting it.
Once he's gotten a few last hits in his damage will be plenty to last hit and he can easily nuke down waves to force the enemy to give up on EXP and gold if he wants to go for runes as well.


This is the problem - if the person he is laning against is competent, its pretty difficult for SD to stay at the same pace with other carries. In my opinion, he needs a babysitter to be truly effective to help with last hitting + denying.
Edit:
Oh, this still doesn't solve one of his biggest problems - he's extremely vulnerable to smoke ganks.
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 30 2012 21:52 GMT
#11882
I have took on players with SF at my skill level when I am at a hero disadvantage. I would consider my self high-skill. He can lane against anyone and get farm and levels.
if you can believe you can concieve
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 30 2012 22:18 GMT
#11883
lol sf isn't that strong of a mid
half the heroes in the pool beat him mid
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
May 30 2012 22:35 GMT
#11884
I played only 1 SF game where I dominated mid. It was against a pretty noob Pudge who chose to eat a few of my auto-attacks just to deny, he wasn't even lasthitting, just denying every creep. Or at least he tried, it was so transparent I could a) get the creep and b)auto-attack him. Every other game I got the shit ganked out of me.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 30 2012 22:38 GMT
#11885
Preview of the unreleased heroes:

NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 30 2012 22:45 GMT
#11886
On May 31 2012 07:38 dragonborn wrote:
Preview of the unreleased heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAnMHCniwYQ&feature=youtu.be&a

that video is pretty old....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 23:03:58
May 30 2012 23:01 GMT
#11887
SS was intentionally nerfed for the SF vs SS matchup to have 480 range instead of 500.

The main issue with SF mid isn't the pure 1v1 matchup, it's that he's so easily ganked by supports from other lanes, especially with smoke. If SF can be held below level 7 it slows his snowballing tremendously.

Short of a player being totally outclassed by a Pudge or Tiny or Zeus or similar ganker it is very difficult to stop SF from reaching level 7 solo, which is the whole point of sending him mid.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 30 2012 23:01 GMT
#11888
Just got disced from a game wouldn't let me recconect, restarted dota and now its gone :S? Was having a really fun game
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
May 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#11889
Unsure if posted already.

http://imgur.com/a/PIHde#0

http://imgur.com/a/S3g2T#0

Dota Cosmetic Set previews.

Pretty cool shit.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 31 2012 00:00 GMT
#11890
LOL ursa with cowboy set
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 00:57:46
May 31 2012 00:57 GMT
#11891
No Test Build Today
We won't be publishing a Test Build today as we are currently busy (proving Cyborgmatt wrong again) putting the final touches on a bigger than usual update.

We expect a new build to be ready tomorrow and will keep you guys updated if plans change.

Just saw this on the dev forums.
Hinting at a multiple hero update?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 31 2012 01:24 GMT
#11892
Just played this game with pudge. Found it a quite entertaining game!

[image loading]
if you can believe you can concieve
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 02:17:42
May 31 2012 02:16 GMT
#11893
On May 31 2012 08:35 Candadar wrote:
Unsure if posted already.

http://imgur.com/a/PIHde#0

http://imgur.com/a/S3g2T#0

Dota Cosmetic Set previews.

Pretty cool shit.


http://optf2.com/d2b/items

Full list of stuff

Jesus christ lol valve is cranking shit UP


New Drow cosmetic change

[image loading]
dats racist
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 31 2012 02:25 GMT
#11894
Ok these cosmetic items are fucking awesome. Seriously. I love Valve. I will gladly pay for cosmetic shit of the quality they are planning on providing.

Super excited for the update tomorrow. Hopes for Templar Assassin. Lanaya, you're my girl!
"I am a leaf on the wind."
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 02:27:00
May 31 2012 02:26 GMT
#11895
What is the"Early Access Bundle" near the bottom I wonder?

And this will be the first F2P game I spend money on.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
May 31 2012 02:30 GMT
#11896
On May 31 2012 11:25 Hoban wrote:
Ok these cosmetic items are fucking awesome. Seriously. I love Valve. I will gladly pay for cosmetic shit of the quality they are planning on providing.

Super excited for the update tomorrow. Hopes for Templar Assassin. Lanaya, you're my girl!


Honestly, the Juggernaut skins are the best part of this all.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 31 2012 03:01 GMT
#11897
if there is a good WR skin im paying for it, preferably one which turns her back into a blonde high elf but I guess copyright, still.
WriterXiao8~~
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 31 2012 03:04 GMT
#11898
bad kimberly
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 31 2012 03:18 GMT
#11899
On May 31 2012 12:04 flamewheel wrote:
bad kimberly


If there is a bundle that gives me flamewheel babies then I am bankrupt. Just flamewheel babies for everything. Projectiles, bloodseeker skins, you name it.

But seriously, if they give me bambi chantress...I will love valve even more than I already do.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 31 2012 03:36 GMT
#11900
On May 31 2012 12:18 Hoban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 12:04 flamewheel wrote:
bad kimberly


If there is a bundle that gives me flamewheel babies then I am bankrupt. Just flamewheel babies for everything. Projectiles, bloodseeker skins, you name it.

sf's ult would look sick.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
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