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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
May 30 2012 18:48 GMT
#11861
What is a good pick for mid vs Shadow Fiend?
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 18:56:26
May 30 2012 18:55 GMT
#11862
^ Tinker, Shadow Shaman, Storm, Kunkka, QoP, Death Prophet, Invoker
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 30 2012 18:58 GMT
#11863
Anybody who can win the lane against him from lvl1 so he can't get a big soul count and maintains power later to keep him down and can help in ganks on him.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 30 2012 18:58 GMT
#11864
lol kunkka vs sf
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#11865
^what? its good.

i've done before :D
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#11866
if you hit a torrent sf is dead...
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#11867
QE Invoker rapes SF so hard, if I know I'm going up against him I'll get an early blades of attack to rape him even harder. Cold snapping them while they're desperately trying to raze is always hilarious to watch.
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 30 2012 19:12 GMT
#11868
Winning a lane against a SF is like winning a lane against a Bloodseeker, you just need to out last hit them and control the lane. And yea, Q/E invoker is hilarious. Last hitting and denying against SF's abysmal starting damage is hilarious.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 30 2012 19:13 GMT
#11869
Viper rapes sf in mid lane really hard.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#11870
Poor SF can't catch a break
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 30 2012 19:22 GMT
#11871
What do you guys think it's more important: Having first pick, or choosing a side (dire)? In M5 vs CLG lobby, PGG won the coinflip and chose first pick. I always thought you would go for dire rather than having first pick.
super gg
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#11872
On May 31 2012 04:22 cecek wrote:
What do you guys think it's more important: Having first pick, or choosing a side (dire)? In M5 vs CLG lobby, PGG won the coinflip and chose first pick. I always thought you would go for dire rather than having first pick.

Well if you have a draft ready, first pick might be what you want. In general side is better I think
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 30 2012 20:02 GMT
#11873
From playing SF a lot myself i'll say that the biggest problem i have is viper.
When he reaches level six you only have to overextend once and only slightly for him to be able to kill you, and he outlast hits you easily early on.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 20:16:52
May 30 2012 20:16 GMT
#11874
Thank you for replies. Its just I had SF and Pudge against me in the enemy team few times now and had to pick mid so I went storm (because I know how to play him at least a little bit) and won lane vs SF, against my own expectations. Just wanted to check other possibilitys without looking like a idiot.^^
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 30 2012 20:18 GMT
#11875
I think storm vs sf is a lot about rune control.
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 30 2012 20:23 GMT
#11876
SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper
if you can believe you can concieve
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 30 2012 20:28 GMT
#11877
On May 31 2012 05:23 TheWarbler wrote:
SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper

That's why you gank SF on mid, and that's why smoke ganks hurt him so much. He would win a 1v1 vs almost anybody especially when he can get a lot of souls
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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 30 2012 20:40 GMT
#11878
On May 31 2012 05:23 TheWarbler wrote:
SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper


Very dumb statement, that's like saying every hero can win mid lane with good play.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 20:57:35
May 30 2012 20:56 GMT
#11879
On May 31 2012 05:40 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 05:23 TheWarbler wrote:
SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper


Very dumb statement, that's like saying every hero can win mid lane with good play.


There are heroes that cannot beat a particular hero even with good play. But it is not dumb to say that good play with a good hero is enough to come out on top vs most heroes purely based on inherent strengths.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 30 2012 21:35 GMT
#11880
On May 31 2012 05:40 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 05:23 TheWarbler wrote:
SF can beat any hero mid with good play. Maybe not viper


Very dumb statement, that's like saying every hero can win mid lane with good play.

It's not a dumb statement, entirely.
SF has the kit to dominate mid completely and utterly if the match-up really was 1v1 with no other players affecting it.
Once he's gotten a few last hits in his damage will be plenty to last hit and he can easily nuke down waves to force the enemy to give up on EXP and gold if he wants to go for runes as well.

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