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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 05:26:04
May 10 2012 05:24 GMT
#10461
anyone wana have a good hint on advance last hitting as PoTM? the base dmg is so low at lv 1 which make me have to hit each creep twice to get a guarantee farm. The problem is the first hit will often make the creep easier for high dmg heroes to deny QQ. I have try rushing aquila like a basic morphling but then it slow down by boots which make ganking mid game harder T_T... I do watch some pro stream over the SEA scene and sometime they just rush straight naked yasha before boot @_@
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 10 2012 05:28 GMT
#10462
i usually go pms, phase, urn, manta. starting with 2 slippers, 2 branches 2x heal.
i know the pms probably isnt that useful but its mainly gotten for the agi.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 10 2012 05:30 GMT
#10463
On May 10 2012 14:21 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:10 DoNotDisturb wrote:
quick brag post but I'm really happy

bah img fail, editing later

I have learnt well from SingSing :3


MoM on everything?


5 bars on Rhasta actually
ffxiv enjoyer
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 10 2012 05:30 GMT
#10464
i have same starting item but im testing either rushing blade of attack or wraith band right after...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 10 2012 05:31 GMT
#10465
the blade of attack is usually enough to outlasthit scrubs. i basically always get it before boots, sometimes before the stout shield if im having real problems.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 10 2012 05:32 GMT
#10466
I've been trying wraith band + tango recently. That +9 helps a lot but I wouldn't like doing that in a hard lane.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 10 2012 05:46 GMT
#10467
hmm...
When you compare the stats, its actually really similar to 2xslipper + 2xbranch. You do miss out on a salve/tango, but if you play with a friend who goes first item in lane as flying courier you can always fly out some regen/branches, or you could lane with a support who buys an extra salve for you.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 10 2012 05:51 GMT
#10468
you could also go blades of attack, a branch and a salve.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 10 2012 05:53 GMT
#10469
ye i have seen some cheesey solo mid mirana went 1wraith+2branches......didnt realize that until lvl3 after she took most last hit and deny (i was like wtf is going on....). at least worked well for her at the start.

speaking of mirana, the old trolling bfury build is my favourite! hell yeaaahh!!

[image loading]

if you noticed that my s7 mate played against singsing the other night and he was the 'roaming' naix lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 10 2012 05:58 GMT
#10470
Well I guess it depends on your preference of boots and whether or not to go aquila. Blade gives you less stats hence less mana/survivability, but builds into better items (namely phase). I personally prefer treads+aquila for her, but I don't player her much/well so :S
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 10 2012 05:59 GMT
#10471
Found out the reason why we didn't get a hero patch this week:



+ Show Spoiler +
Fucking weaver
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#10472
On May 10 2012 14:53 BurningSera wrote:
ye i have seen some cheesey solo mid mirana went 1wraith+2branches......didnt realize that until lvl3 after she took most last hit and deny (i was like wtf is going on....). at least worked well for her at the start.

speaking of mirana, the old trolling bfury build is my favourite! hell yeaaahh!!

[image loading]

if you noticed that my s7 mate played against singsing the other night and he was the 'roaming' naix lol


lol @ the doubleburi kunkka too.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 07:19:26
May 10 2012 07:18 GMT
#10473
It's (somewhat) official, NaVi in TI2 (ofc)

http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3052-the-international-invites-natus-vincere

The postman brought a letter of invitation from Valve.
ffxiv enjoyer
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 07:30:21
May 10 2012 07:30 GMT
#10474
Random wasn't removed from those modes, ignore that line in the log!

From Icefrog on the dev forums.

New beastmaster:
[image loading]
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 07:36:30
May 10 2012 07:33 GMT
#10475
On May 10 2012 14:24 NB wrote:
anyone wana have a good hint on advance last hitting as PoTM? the base dmg is so low at lv 1 which make me have to hit each creep twice to get a guarantee farm. The problem is the first hit will often make the creep easier for high dmg heroes to deny QQ. I have try rushing aquila like a basic morphling but then it slow down by boots which make ganking mid game harder T_T... I do watch some pro stream over the SEA scene and sometime they just rush straight naked yasha before boot @_@

Phase+Janggo is the way I've seen her play the few times she's shown up in Chinese games.

Blades+Branches+Regen is a really nice start if you get Random gold.

On May 10 2012 14:32 flamewheel wrote:
I've been trying wraith band + tango recently. That +9 helps a lot but I wouldn't like doing that in a hard lane.

Remember Basi gives +6 damage. In a hard lane, you can either do double tangos+salve+RoP+2xBranches, or tangoes+salve+RoP+3xBranches, and just sneak the 325 gold you need for Sobi.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 10 2012 07:58 GMT
#10476
i have tried the phase drum shit on mirana. really bad on lane, good if you roam and just spam drum to chase for kill. Overall not worth it bc mirana MS isnt low plus she has a leap. I rarely have HP problem in lane even when i only go 1 tango: its mostly you either take no dmg or you got 1 chain stun to death, nothing in between.

RoB is cool but starting with RoP making last hit extremely difficult. Its great if you are playing vs some heavy harass laner but you shouldnt be risking to take dmg from the first place. Basicly you will have around 50-51 dmg while the windrunner has 58+ and most melee has 56+ quelling or in case of SB 60+ -_-. Getting RoB early is not that good until mid game either. Leap has really low mana cost and you should never spam spells in lane unless you are solo mid in which case bottle is way better.

Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 10 2012 08:01 GMT
#10477
I just feel like PotM is completely outclassed by Windrunner in every way imaginable, even in last hitting. :/
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 10 2012 08:02 GMT
#10478
If there's nothing in-between, you are clearly playing bad players
Hates Fun🤔
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 10 2012 08:17 GMT
#10479
On May 10 2012 17:01 Firebolt145 wrote:
I just feel like PotM is completely outclassed by Windrunner in every way imaginable, even in last hitting. :/


mirana shines only when she gets some farm and from mid game onwards, she is an agi hero afterall. while wr is more of an utility hero and she is quite a typical int hero. i always feel like the existence of wr is due to the popular ban of mirana so icefrog made a hero that can co-exist with mirana with slight difference. prefer mirana in pub game but then both are quite useless when you get a bad team.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 10 2012 08:26 GMT
#10480
On May 10 2012 12:43 LAN-f34r wrote:
Purge doesn't slow. It just so happens that many purges also have slows ie SD and diffusal. I mean, storm panda purges in an AoE, but no slow.

Anyone notice cyborgmatt was saying "we" when talking about added stuff? eg "We’ve some updates to Beastmaster’s models, specifically the textures."

Storm panda is a dispel, not a purge. It's not the same effect/base spell. Purge slows, while dispel doesn't.
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