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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 20 2014 04:32 GMT
#103621
but with aghs Omniknight is a 7 sec fort that heals buildings with global range

14 sec with refresher

literally the best for base races guys
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
April 20 2014 04:44 GMT
#103622
Remember the days when omniknight was ban material and was put to mid? yeah
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 20 2014 05:00 GMT
#103623
Don't forget, that Omni gets pretty screwed by Diffusal. Repel as well as GA get purged away. So, it cost 3.3k to completely counter the hero pretty much.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
April 20 2014 05:33 GMT
#103624
i remember when medusa had 7second cd purge lol and u could purge off the repell
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 20 2014 05:34 GMT
#103625
You can't lane that hero anywhere. He's useless.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 20 2014 06:13 GMT
#103626
offlane omni
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
April 20 2014 06:27 GMT
#103627
i remember omni being picked often during wc3 times


i still wonder nobody abuses the 20 sec bkb of omniknight

this is a quote
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12155 Posts
April 20 2014 06:31 GMT
#103628
On April 20 2014 14:34 Daozzt wrote:
You can't lane that hero anywhere. He's useless.


If you have otherwise stronger lanes you can last pick him and put him in jungle.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
April 20 2014 07:17 GMT
#103629
On April 20 2014 14:34 Daozzt wrote:
You can't lane that hero anywhere. He's useless.

he is not as horrible as you think .. he is somewhat like abaddon just a nerfed version of it in lanes

sure he is not like dazzle who has high impact even in the beginning but is like AA .. needs levels to be effective

he can also be comboed to a couple of heroes in lane ..
this is a quote
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 20 2014 07:18 GMT
#103630
On April 20 2014 15:13 Kupon3ss wrote:
offlane omni


Offlane anything works in pubs.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
April 20 2014 07:31 GMT
#103631
I feel like he could work as a carry.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
April 20 2014 07:56 GMT
#103632
I think offlane omni would be ok in competitive play, but it's a long way from being good.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 20 2014 07:58 GMT
#103633
Omni dual offlane works against melee hard carry, when their tri-lane don't have enough burst to force you to use purification before the hard carry goes on you. Each level of heal is 180 pure damage swing. Boots, oov, stout, and go ham on heroes like fv,am. Solo offlane omni can also somewhat force their supports to somewhat stay in lane. Then again, these heroes aren't that common these days.

Maybe it will work against TB, if you can somehow get past the bullshit metamorphosis spell. God i hate that fucking hero, i don't even feel ember or lycan is OP compared to him.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 09:35:08
April 20 2014 08:56 GMT
#103634
I think omniknight's problem isnt levels or items, he needs a soulring and naked boots is to be usefull enough at lvl 6 if you dont press qqq every time its of CD, its managable. Its not that hard getting some lowcost items pretty early in the game.

I think that in very well coordinated teams, supports that contribute/initiate to ganks early, have more positive gameimpact early. Dazzle, sjaman, AA, rubric, visage, venomancer can initiate a gank or pick off a tower during the laningstages if there is good coordination. They can make things happen early and omniknight excells at not letting the enemy make things happen early.
Against the most picked carries in promatches he has alot of potential : An ember, luna, lifestealer, weaver, lycan, vengefull spirit, drow, bristleback and a templar assasin cant fight when he casts his ultimate. His ultimate is stronger when used offensively and less defensively. I think he has potential as a counterpick in promatches against an ember-mid+psychical damage dealing carry.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 20 2014 09:37 GMT
#103635
EG used to offlane Omni on dire in their knight strat
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 10:28:54
April 20 2014 10:26 GMT
#103636
On April 20 2014 17:56 govie wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think omniknight's problem isnt levels or items, he needs a soulring and naked boots is to be usefull enough at lvl 6 if you dont press qqq every time its of CD, its managable. Its not that hard getting some lowcost items pretty early in the game.

I think that in very well coordinated teams, supports that contribute/initiate to ganks early, have more positive gameimpact early. Dazzle, sjaman, AA, rubric, visage, venomancer can initiate a gank or pick off a tower during the laningstages if there is good coordination. They can make things happen early and omniknight excells at not letting the enemy make things happen early.
Against the most picked carries in promatches he has alot of potential : An ember, luna, lifestealer, weaver, lycan, vengefull spirit, drow, bristleback and a templar assasin cant fight when he casts his ultimate. His ultimate is stronger when used offensively and less defensively. I think he has potential as a counterpick in promatches against an ember-mid+psychical damage dealing carry.

I feel like your point became invalid when you listed venge and drow as "most picked carries in promatches"

My 2c is that omni is difficult to lane, is hardcountered by a 3300g item, and does little that a dazzle or even an abbadon can't do 10000x better.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
April 20 2014 11:23 GMT
#103637
On April 20 2014 18:37 Heyoka wrote:
EG used to offlane Omni on dire in their knight strat

the new EG ? or the old EG ? which game ?
this is a quote
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 20 2014 11:29 GMT
#103638
Wasn't it the EG, which still featured Maelk?
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 20 2014 11:46 GMT
#103639
On April 20 2014 20:23 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 18:37 Heyoka wrote:
EG used to offlane Omni on dire in their knight strat

the new EG ? or the old EG ? which game ?


EG ages ago.

Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 20 2014 11:53 GMT
#103640
Isn't the problem with Omniknight that he can't carry or create space, and requires more farm to come online than a Dazzle or Abaddon? I bet if Degen Aura was changed to some kind of single-target slow, he'd be all but pickable.
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