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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 14 2014 21:14 GMT
#102961
On April 15 2014 06:08 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 05:55 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On April 15 2014 04:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 15 2014 04:28 Kraznaya wrote:
On April 15 2014 04:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm just an Aui fanboy. Otherwise I'd consider different flairs. Doesn't really matter. I cheer for all the NA teams, half the CN teams, and a few EU teams too.


i mean if ur an aui fanboy maybe u should respect his opinion on his teammates

I don't actually have anything against EE. I'm honest when I say I don't think he's a top-tier carry but he's done a lot of good things for his team and for Alliance and I respect the effort he puts into the game.

This is pretty much exactly what people said about both Xboct and Loda when he was in Zenith. Guess some player in every team just get so much shit until they reach a TI final so the 2k rating superstars maybe understand that they might have undervalue'd them.

Still blows my mind that Xboct got a 4/10 carry. How off can some peoples judgement be...?

xboct makes too many questionnable plays to be a top tier carry

wow and you call yourself a carry player at heart, xboct is the TITS mang, THE FUCKING TITS.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 14 2014 21:21 GMT
#102962
I've gone from an Xbox detractor to a big Xbox fan. I maintain that he's improved a lot but its possible it was only my perception.

Loda, I still think he's passable but by far the least important part of his team. If he was less of a conceited prick it might be easier to think of him as a top tier carry. It's hard to argue with results like his.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 14 2014 21:23 GMT
#102963
xboct is what you get when you cross an aggressive player with someone that needs help carrying his balls around because of how big they are.
Ontop of that he seems to have improved as a player and have gotten a bigger hero pool to play up from essentially AM and a few others like juggernaut and other bfury carries(Back during TI2)

I'll never forget all his rapiers in his gyro-game vs DK at MLG. Such a good game.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#102964
On April 15 2014 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've gone from an Xbox detractor to a big Xbox fan. I maintain that he's improved a lot but its possible it was only my perception.

Loda, I still think he's passable but by far the least important part of his team. If he was less of a conceited prick it might be easier to think of him as a top tier carry. It's hard to argue with results like his.

XBOCT did improve. He used to throw a LOT more.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 14 2014 21:27 GMT
#102965
On April 15 2014 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've gone from an Xbox detractor to a big Xbox fan. I maintain that he's improved a lot but its possible it was only my perception.

I was the same, and for me the turning point was Na'Vi's China bootcamp pre-TI3. From watching their involvement in Chinese tournaments, Dendi and XBOCT in particular showed visible improvement IMO over those few weeks, more so than the other members of Na'Vi.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 14 2014 21:28 GMT
#102966
On April 15 2014 05:42 SilverStar wrote:
What happend to the video / image threads? Can we post stuff now here? Yay:


Wait wow, that's incredible. I knew DOTA2 had great aesthetic design, but this...

Even just the Axe using Culling Blade on a PL illusion felt like a part of a major battle. I want to watch replays of big teamfights at super-slow speed in that wonky spectating mode now.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
April 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#102967
Loda used to be the best carry player. And I don't mean like 7 years ago, I mean last year. He was the most consistent, and I know all of you like to say that he's just getting carried. But every other carry in the world, regardless of how good people said their supports were, weren't getting caught out as little as he was. Wasn't joining all the right fights. Finding farm when they were greatly behind. He might have died here and there, but almost never when it was actually game-losing. Etc... By every measurable way, he was.

This year, he's playing quite mediocre. And again, people could say that's because of the rest of the team not playing well. But there was a period at the end of last year where Alliance weren't doing well, but Loda was still very consistent and did what he needed/could do. Now, that's not really the case.

XBOCT now is more like what Loda was when he was good. He plays his role, he doesn't make game-ending mistakes. Which is rare for carries.
Once you Goblak...
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
April 14 2014 22:08 GMT
#102968
Meanwhile, a 100 minute game vs 4FC and Dogma is being played in the Fragbite tournament. There are multiple couriers flying around with Necro 3's on them. There's a Viper with 700 lasthits.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 14 2014 22:20 GMT
#102969
On April 15 2014 06:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've gone from an Xbox detractor to a big Xbox fan. I maintain that he's improved a lot but its possible it was only my perception.

I was the same, and for me the turning point was Na'Vi's China bootcamp pre-TI3. From watching their involvement in Chinese tournaments, Dendi and XBOCT in particular showed visible improvement IMO over those few weeks, more so than the other members of Na'Vi.

Yes, that was about the turning point. He pretty clearly put a lot of work in around that time. He was never close to as bad as his detractors claimed but he tightened up a bunch then.

Since then Xboct has been the best carry in Europe and probably the world and any time someone insults him I just assume they know nothing about Dota beyond what commentators tell them.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 14 2014 23:11 GMT
#102970
demon dota lives
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 23:45:37
April 14 2014 23:43 GMT
#102971
Ya I like last year's Loda, those ridiculous carry alchem games were memorable. Xboct delivered big time during TI3 as well (seriously he was arguably the best player in Navi during TI3).

And then this year Loda's performance has been lacking (not only him but rather the whole team, egm/akke duo doesn't seem to be working very well lately) but then I'd still say his plays are relatively solid most of the time compared to all other western carry players.. For navi, as much as I don't want to admit but kky is really stepping up to be a top tier support who can play quite a number of support heroes, while dendi seems to be in his slump and occasionally ppy/funnik gone full feeder/retard mode.


On April 15 2014 06:28 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 05:42 SilverStar wrote:
What happend to the video / image threads? Can we post stuff now here? Yay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfcxifX8VZc

Wait wow, that's incredible. I knew DOTA2 had great aesthetic design, but this...

Even just the Axe using Culling Blade on a PL illusion felt like a part of a major battle. I want to watch replays of big teamfights at super-slow speed in that wonky spectating mode now.


omg i got so much chills watching that lol

That mandatory doe butt too rofl.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 15 2014 00:22 GMT
#102972
On April 15 2014 07:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 06:27 TheYango wrote:
On April 15 2014 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've gone from an Xbox detractor to a big Xbox fan. I maintain that he's improved a lot but its possible it was only my perception.

I was the same, and for me the turning point was Na'Vi's China bootcamp pre-TI3. From watching their involvement in Chinese tournaments, Dendi and XBOCT in particular showed visible improvement IMO over those few weeks, more so than the other members of Na'Vi.

Yes, that was about the turning point. He pretty clearly put a lot of work in around that time. He was never close to as bad as his detractors claimed but he tightened up a bunch then.

Since then Xboct has been the best carry in Europe and probably the world and any time someone insults him I just assume they know nothing about Dota beyond what commentators tell them.


I, for one, didn't really notice the improvement until TI3 came around. Needless to say it was amazing to see him temper the aggression and make less questionable dives. Combined with his already pretty good farming ability, he suddenly was a top carry.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 15 2014 00:25 GMT
#102973
my question is is it possible to be a fan of a player or are you obligated to be a fan of the entire team because of what they are doing and providing for the player in question
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 00:32:21
April 15 2014 00:31 GMT
#102974
On April 15 2014 09:25 FinestHour wrote:
my question is is it possible to be a fan of a player or are you obligated to be a fan of the entire team because of what they are doing and providing for the player in question

Definetly possible to be a fan of a single player, just like I do. Or #demonarmy, who up until now didn't have a team to root for.

#E: Wait, aren't you Demon-Fan as well?
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 15 2014 00:38 GMT
#102975
r u fckin srs
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 01:09:55
April 15 2014 01:09 GMT
#102976
sorry finest you have to sig up for liquid

it is your destiny.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 15 2014 01:10 GMT
#102977
FinestHour #demonarmy? No way
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 15 2014 01:11 GMT
#102978
FH needs to change sig for us to win
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 15 2014 01:13 GMT
#102979
Guess I got somethign mixed up. Sorry if that offended you FinestHour!
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
April 15 2014 01:14 GMT
#102980
FH all about that GTL
u gotta farm
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