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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:20:51
May 08 2012 09:20 GMT
#10221
im pretty sure a lot of deal are currently being established underground and none of them will not be published unless paper contract are signed. Same applying to mouz fifth as well as Virtus.Pro etc... NS isnt a reliable source on who get to go to the international 2. Mouz and mTw have both played really well recently and made themselves large fan base but they still have not win a major tournament(or take a game off Navi) yet. The Defense 2 non-navi-finalists are most likely will be guarantee slots and Dreamhack will also made a large impact on judging teams' 'LAN performance'.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:25:18
May 08 2012 09:23 GMT
#10222
On May 08 2012 18:13 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 18:01 cecek wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:56 Dattish wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:45 cecek wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:40 Dattish wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:33 cecek wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:27 Dattish wrote:
Mouz is a hella lot more stable than most other teams. I think among the GGnet rankings top 30 only coL, CLG and aL among western teams that has been more stable.


What are you even talking about? There's only bamboe and singsing left from the roster a couple weeks ago. Twista wasn't playing for them back then. And before they didn't have bamboe even. Trixi, Rexi are gone, they picked up Fire and who the hell knows who the fifth is. Almost all teams are more stable than them...

Twista was always on mouz. They only lost the finstack. And I forgot to add Na'Vi to that list, but they're definitly guaranteed a spot.

How is M5, DTS, Darer, EG, mTw, KEITA, Dignitas, NEXT, and ex-SK, Quantic, Eclypsia more stable?


Well.... Mouz was Rexi, Trixi, Dement, Bamboe, Singsing. Now they're Twista, Bamboe, Singsing, Fire +1. That's quite a change, innit? When is the last time NEXT changed their roster?? Or Eclypsia? They changed 1 player in the past 2 months or something. Even M5 and DTS are very stable recently.... and those teams are by far not the only teams in top 30 as you said. http://gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings
I don't know what to say, really... if you don't see now, that they're not stable, I don't think there's much to be done anymore...

NEXT still lacks a fifth, just like you say mouz does. Eclypsia has indeed only replaced 1 player. M5 has replaced their entire lineups about 3 times since the beginning of Dota 2, that's not stable. DTS reshuffled with M5.

I only mentioned those teams since they would also be unstable by your definition.


so if a team is lacking fifth it means they are more unstable than a team that has had 9 players in their team since their beginning, changed 3/5 members two weeks ago and are also lacking a fifth? ok... You're not being reasonable here, friend.
edit: just checked and NEXT does have a 5 player roster.
Oh yeah, didn't see that. Well, who would you give mouz' spot to then?

Chinese/SEA teams, MUFC/Zenith/Orange/Mineski

Either way I think if Mouz announces it soon that theyl still be eligible for a spot for International 2, I think mTw is too, its basically around now that the last roster changes can happen for the international 2.
WriterXiao8~~
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:24:01
May 08 2012 09:23 GMT
#10223
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 08 2012 09:26 GMT
#10224
Well, it probably is that NS is misinformed, or just is talking out of his arse. As far as to who should get the slot, I don't know. We don't even know how many european team will be there even. I just find it strange that Mouz would be set in stone at this point, especially after all their roster issues.
super gg
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 08 2012 09:29 GMT
#10225
--- Nuked ---
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:47:29
May 08 2012 09:37 GMT
#10226
Ehome will probably get invited sheerly based upon the name they carry and the players they have(and frankly they should be)

Wonder if LGD will get invited granted they haven't played Dota 2 yet in a competitive tournament.
WriterXiao8~~
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 08 2012 09:52 GMT
#10227
Stop calling them Eclypsia, they were never really Eclypsia, they are still with Quantic, and they have made more than one change in the past. Mania replaced Calculus, then now Playmate is replacing Link. They are still relatively stable with their core of angel miggel, but almost no team is immune to roster changes.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 08 2012 10:00 GMT
#10228
On May 08 2012 13:16 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Anyone getting crazy lag?


Over the last few weeks or so I have gone from consistently 100 ping to consistently 300 ping.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 08 2012 10:22 GMT
#10229
Teams seriously need to start enforcing contracts. It's just ridiculous how often teams just fall over and die every time they lose in 1 tourny.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 10:49:42
May 08 2012 10:49 GMT
#10230
its not that, in case of playmate replacing Link it was simply bc Link has to goes to the army and playmate fill a better slot than link does. Same goes to mTw, full roster change except for the captain simply made to make the team stronger. DotA2 scene is still small atm and no one will rush stuff on to paper.

edit: jesus demon's voice should be banned from singing
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 11:12:27
May 08 2012 11:04 GMT
#10231
On May 08 2012 18:23 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 18:13 Dattish wrote:
On May 08 2012 18:01 cecek wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:56 Dattish wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:45 cecek wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:40 Dattish wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:33 cecek wrote:
On May 08 2012 17:27 Dattish wrote:
Mouz is a hella lot more stable than most other teams. I think among the GGnet rankings top 30 only coL, CLG and aL among western teams that has been more stable.


What are you even talking about? There's only bamboe and singsing left from the roster a couple weeks ago. Twista wasn't playing for them back then. And before they didn't have bamboe even. Trixi, Rexi are gone, they picked up Fire and who the hell knows who the fifth is. Almost all teams are more stable than them...

Twista was always on mouz. They only lost the finstack. And I forgot to add Na'Vi to that list, but they're definitly guaranteed a spot.

How is M5, DTS, Darer, EG, mTw, KEITA, Dignitas, NEXT, and ex-SK, Quantic, Eclypsia more stable?


Well.... Mouz was Rexi, Trixi, Dement, Bamboe, Singsing. Now they're Twista, Bamboe, Singsing, Fire +1. That's quite a change, innit? When is the last time NEXT changed their roster?? Or Eclypsia? They changed 1 player in the past 2 months or something. Even M5 and DTS are very stable recently.... and those teams are by far not the only teams in top 30 as you said. http://gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings
I don't know what to say, really... if you don't see now, that they're not stable, I don't think there's much to be done anymore...

NEXT still lacks a fifth, just like you say mouz does. Eclypsia has indeed only replaced 1 player. M5 has replaced their entire lineups about 3 times since the beginning of Dota 2, that's not stable. DTS reshuffled with M5.

I only mentioned those teams since they would also be unstable by your definition.


so if a team is lacking fifth it means they are more unstable than a team that has had 9 players in their team since their beginning, changed 3/5 members two weeks ago and are also lacking a fifth? ok... You're not being reasonable here, friend.
edit: just checked and NEXT does have a 5 player roster.
Oh yeah, didn't see that. Well, who would you give mouz' spot to then?

Chinese/SEA teams, MUFC/Zenith/Orange/Mineski

Either way I think if Mouz announces it soon that theyl still be eligible for a spot for International 2, I think mTw is too, its basically around now that the last roster changes can happen for the international 2.


Zenith and Orange will be invited no matter what imo
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 08 2012 11:49 GMT
#10232
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3032-inmate-it-was-my-first-big-lan-tournament

Do you have a goal in life?

Plant a tree, raise a son and name a daughter Mirana.

lol so random.
WriterXiao8~~
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 08 2012 11:50 GMT
#10233
^
Actually not, that's the goal of a man :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 08 2012 11:54 GMT
#10234
On May 08 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3032-inmate-it-was-my-first-big-lan-tournament

Show nested quote +
Do you have a goal in life?

Plant a tree, raise a son and name a daughter Mirana.

lol so random.

He just wants to play furion sometimes
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 08 2012 11:55 GMT
#10235
It's usually plant a tree, build a house and raise a son. But have a daughter called Mirana is more badass then building a house, I suppose.
super gg
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 08 2012 11:55 GMT
#10236
tbh, im so naming my daughter mirana if my family gona speak primary english

question: sticky nalpalm no longer works with radiance, what about orb of venom?...........
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 11:57:41
May 08 2012 11:57 GMT
#10237
Im naming my son "Magina" for the same reason Johnny Cash named his son "Sue."
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 08 2012 12:08 GMT
#10238
On May 08 2012 20:55 NB wrote:
tbh, im so naming my daughter mirana if my family gona speak primary english

question: sticky nalpalm no longer works with radiance, what about orb of venom?...........

Radiance and orb of venom are the only exceptions afaik, check the wiki
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 08 2012 12:10 GMT
#10239
My friend just told me about the site "DotAfire" so i decided to check out the guides.
And wow, 99% of them are horrible, even the highest 'quality' guides are not worth anything.
The highest rated hero guide with n'aix said BKB is completely useless on n'aix and is alway a waste of money. What? Just because n'aix has built in magic immunity doesn't mean that getting a BKB is bad, in some games it's still a great item to get.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 08 2012 12:13 GMT
#10240
On May 08 2012 21:10 Unleashing wrote:
My friend just told me about the site "DotAfire" so i decided to check out the guides.
And wow, 99% of them are horrible, even the highest 'quality' guides are not worth anything.
The highest rated hero guide with n'aix said BKB is completely useless on n'aix and is alway a waste of money. What? Just because n'aix has built in magic immunity doesn't mean that getting a BKB is bad, in some games it's still a great item to get.


People like seeing things in black and white so they make statements like that. Most things in dota are situational.
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