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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 08 2012 12:13 GMT
#10241
If you want guides just go to playdota.com/guides .
They have many good guides.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 08 2012 12:13 GMT
#10242
Mobafire is one of the worst LoL guide sites out there so it's hardly surprising that the dota2 section sucks too.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 12:22:59
May 08 2012 12:15 GMT
#10243
On May 08 2012 21:13 Yoshi- wrote:
If you want guides just go to playdota.com/guides .
They have many good guides.

I never liked guides to begin with and a lot of playdota guides are bad as well.
But due to playdotas age as a dota forum it's bound to have SOME good ones.

I kept looking: Apparently the top voted bounty hunter guide on dotafire has vlads as THE go to core item. What.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
May 08 2012 12:24 GMT
#10244
um wtf cant connect to dota2 network......
teamblackeye.com ///// http://www.youtube.com/user/gostunv ///// https://twitter.com/forgenjuro
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 08 2012 12:27 GMT
#10245
On May 08 2012 21:15 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 21:13 Yoshi- wrote:
If you want guides just go to playdota.com/guides .
They have many good guides.

I never liked guides to begin with and a lot of playdota guides are bad as well.
But due to playdotas age as a dota forum it's bound to have SOME good ones.

I kept looking: Apparently the top voted bounty hunter guide on dotafire has vlads as THE go to core item. What.


Most bounty hunter guides are horrible so it's kind of a bad metric to rate something.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 08 2012 12:43 GMT
#10246
I saw this http://www.dotahut.com/ a while ago, looked like it had pros writing guides, hence actually reliable guides.

When looking at guides, you just gotta remember that everything is situational, and that people writing guides are often wrong.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 08 2012 12:46 GMT
#10247
and watch when the guides has been updated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 12:46:36
May 08 2012 12:46 GMT
#10248
On May 08 2012 21:15 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 21:13 Yoshi- wrote:
If you want guides just go to playdota.com/guides .
They have many good guides.

I never liked guides to begin with and a lot of playdota guides are bad as well.
But due to playdotas age as a dota forum it's bound to have SOME good ones.

I kept looking: Apparently the top voted bounty hunter guide on dotafire has vlads as THE go to core item. What.


imo watching progamers' streams is much better - I've learnt far more from watching SingSing stream than reading PD guides, or maybe it's just my preferred style of learning.
ffxiv enjoyer
Mythra
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand274 Posts
May 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#10249
On May 08 2012 21:46 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 21:15 Unleashing wrote:
On May 08 2012 21:13 Yoshi- wrote:
If you want guides just go to playdota.com/guides .
They have many good guides.

I never liked guides to begin with and a lot of playdota guides are bad as well.
But due to playdotas age as a dota forum it's bound to have SOME good ones.

I kept looking: Apparently the top voted bounty hunter guide on dotafire has vlads as THE go to core item. What.


imo watching progamers' streams is much better - I've learnt far more from watching SingSing stream than reading PD guides, or maybe it's just my preferred style of learning.


I don't know if SingSing is the best person to follow item build wise, but yeah I think pro streams are great to learn how to play heros
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 08 2012 13:12 GMT
#10250
I suggest synderen for that, he often streams scrims and he is the drafter/captain, so he calls most of the shots and grants great insight.
WriterXiao8~~
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 08 2012 13:19 GMT
#10251
On May 08 2012 13:02 flamewheel wrote:
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On May 08 2012 12:02 Logo wrote:
Do you guys have any advice for windrunner in the mid/late game?

Specifically I'm generally having pretty strong early games with wind runner, but towards the mid game I feel like I'm having trouble contributing well. I can counter-push with powershot and I do my best with shackles in teamfights, but even so I just feel like I'm not really able to do a whole lot to help my team really take the advantage even when my farm is pretty good.

As for items I'm going force staff + mek and occasionally ring of basilius. How I build it out varies, but my general thought has been to get the armor ring early on and if my farm is good I go for boots + force staff, then make boots of tranq, then break them later for mek and make either treads or phase boots. If my farm is poor I'll make the ring of basilus, boots, then focus on mek.

I'm also not sure how much I should be ganking with WR. She's obviously got some power in ganking, but early on especially I feel hard pressed to be able to get up on someone to shackle/power shot them.
(FWIW I did read Flamewheel's awesome guide already).

Windrunner's midgame depends on what items you've accrued. Her solo-killing power isn't that high, so you either have to really "outplay" opponents to gain an advantage or use items to their fullest effects. As Yango said, Mekansm lets your team enjoy a mini-snowball effect if you get it quickly enough. With Force Staff and Phase Boots you can solo push and escape from most enemy compositions (with a modicum of map awareness). Split your time between farming and ganking--I err toward the former more, but judge based on your team.

Late game you have to rely primarily on items. Utility Windrunner is built in a way that most items are active--Mekansm, Force Staff, Pipe, Hex, Orchid, Drum are all viable possibilities. There's no set-in-stone way of approaching late game fights. You just have to shackle people (don't just blindly throw out that awesome stun if you're not going to get a full shackle), use items judiciously, and don't die. Powershot is awesome for anti-pushing and has a 9 second cooldown with 1800 range. Also, BoT Windrunner is pretty decent at semi-backdooring.

Thanks that's really helpful. Other than delaying mek in a bad way it sounds like I'm approaching it properly, I just need to do it better and probably be more of a team leader so my team can take advantage of WR's awesome pushing/counter-pushing.
Logo
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 08 2012 13:36 GMT
#10252
I find windrunner is a hero that relies more on team than anything else. You create opportunities but if you don't have team to utilize those chances it doesn't do much.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 08 2012 14:17 GMT
#10253
http://www.virtuspro.org/news/dota2/AZEN-ofitsialno-igrok-Virtuspro/

Azen is fourth for Virtus.BRO!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 08 2012 14:20 GMT
#10254
Synderen's is by far the best stream out there for people that want valuable insight on every single decision such as items/hero picks/strategies.
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 08 2012 14:26 GMT
#10255
Virtus.Pro|NS Interview: http://forum.gamesports.net/dota/showthread.php?4185-Interview-with-Virtus.Pro-NS-after-DH-qualifiers.

also if anyone interest to watch VP's dreamhack games:

Virtus.pro vs Epidemic
+ Show Spoiler +

Virtus.Pro vs DTS
+ Show Spoiler +
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
May 08 2012 16:53 GMT
#10256
On May 08 2012 20:57 PassiveAce wrote:
Im naming my son "Magina" for the same reason Johnny Cash named his son "Sue."


I bet we know a certain someone on these forums who'll name their son Mangix :D
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 08 2012 17:15 GMT
#10257
Dread is fifth for Virtus.Pro!

official roster: NS, kuroky, Santa, Azen, Dread

kuroky is the only non-russian in the team lol :D
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 08 2012 17:25 GMT
#10258
On May 09 2012 01:53 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 20:57 PassiveAce wrote:
Im naming my son "Magina" for the same reason Johnny Cash named his son "Sue."


I bet we know a certain someone on these forums who'll name their son Mangix :D

This will never stop haunting him ~
Moderator
Font
Profile Joined February 2012
170 Posts
May 08 2012 17:29 GMT
#10259
Why is the dota 2 community so immature on teamliquid?

even nadota isnt this bad lol and thats saying something

inb4flamed



User was warned for this post
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 17:32:04
May 08 2012 17:31 GMT
#10260
On May 09 2012 02:29 Font wrote:
Why is the dota 2 community so immature on teamliquid?

even nadota isnt this bad lol and thats saying something

inb4flamed


On April 20 2012 00:54 Font wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:50 Dattish wrote:
Can't wait to properly learn Mangix. Was one of the few heroes that I always had to repick.


what the hell is a mangix rofl this is dota not w.e. MOBA wannabe game ur talking about(LoL)


yeah we are so immature for making fun with this post.

and you are so mature for responding like that.
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