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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 04 2014 11:03 GMT
#101721
On April 04 2014 20:01 Animzor wrote:
why is it so easy to win a 4v5? i'd imagine it'd be extremely hard since you are one man down.

You get tons of gold from the leaver, this often makes your supports twice as strong
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 04 2014 11:29 GMT
#101722
It also makes the 5 people grow cocky and overconfident, if they actually play as a 5man team and are not too far behind its quite hard to win.
WriterXiao8~~
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 04 2014 11:32 GMT
#101723
Does the leaver still get tower gold, roshan gold and so on?
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
April 04 2014 11:35 GMT
#101724
i want 6.81 -.-
FTD
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 04 2014 11:49 GMT
#101725
On April 04 2014 19:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
manta on tiny makes me cringe so hard

He benefits from attack and movement speed. Like, a lot. It's Manta or SnY. SnY isn't particularly good on him, because you've already got the disable and whatnot. Manta, however, gives you illusions. Why are illusions good on Tiny? Because all of the Grow bonus damage is transferred to your illusions (it was originally based on a WC3 unit damage upgrade, and increases Tiny's base damage). Normally Strength carries like, say, Lifestealer get items that directly increase their damage, making Manta terrible on them. But for this reason, it's good on Tiny.

Plus, what is Tiny best at in the lategame? Pushing towers. What does Manta let you do? Whack towers without fear of getting out of position. It's a good siege item.

tl;dr manta legit yo
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
April 04 2014 11:50 GMT
#101726
manta also dispels slows which is nice as tony
SKYFISH__
Profile Joined December 2013
Bulgaria153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 11:53:41
April 04 2014 11:52 GMT
#101727
On April 04 2014 19:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
manta on tiny makes me cringe so hard

wat?
6 slotted tony without a manta lategame is fucking stupid.

you can literally take towers with the illusions, its a fantastic way to break the high ground

on a side note - i reported two russians in a 4 russian+me game.
actions have been taken.
heheheheeh

they were stacked too
wut
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
April 04 2014 12:12 GMT
#101728
On April 04 2014 20:52 SKYFISH__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 19:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
manta on tiny makes me cringe so hard

wat?
6 slotted tony without a manta lategame is fucking stupid.

you can literally take towers with the illusions, its a fantastic way to break the high ground

on a side note - i reported two russians in a 4 russian+me game.
actions have been taken.
heheheheeh

they were stacked too


They probably reported each other as well, russian style.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
April 04 2014 12:15 GMT
#101729
On April 04 2014 20:32 Yoshi- wrote:
Does the leaver still get tower gold, roshan gold and so on?


Every time the leaver has enough gold to divide evenly to other players (ie 4 gold) it is divided and given to other players. So yes, the leaver gets tower gold, and roshan gold, but it is almost instantly transferred to the other players on the team.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:31:52
April 04 2014 12:31 GMT
#101730
Anyone else finding themselves with a pretty big amount of available reports stacked up? I'm up to 20 now.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
April 04 2014 12:49 GMT
#101731
On April 04 2014 19:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
manta on tiny makes me cringe so hard

? why? It's easily one of the most effective items on him after aghs. He makes full use of the item.
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
April 04 2014 12:51 GMT
#101732
On April 04 2014 21:31 Excludos wrote:
Anyone else finding themselves with a pretty big amount of available reports stacked up? I'm up to 20 now.


well....
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Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
April 04 2014 12:54 GMT
#101733
On April 04 2014 10:35 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Clock announcer pretty disappointing.

Still waiting for a really good one after GLaDOS was meh.

I hope valve updates clockwerk's so we can get some jokes and such in it so it'll be better
SKYFISH__
Profile Joined December 2013
Bulgaria153 Posts
April 04 2014 13:17 GMT
#101734
On April 04 2014 21:12 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:52 SKYFISH__ wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
manta on tiny makes me cringe so hard

wat?
6 slotted tony without a manta lategame is fucking stupid.

you can literally take towers with the illusions, its a fantastic way to break the high ground

on a side note - i reported two russians in a 4 russian+me game.
actions have been taken.
heheheheeh

they were stacked too


They probably reported each other as well, russian style.


i bet they did, lol
the other russians were constantly arguing over voice chat with the two other that were stacked
wut
Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
April 04 2014 14:02 GMT
#101735
In Dota 1 I have seen plenty of instances in which 1 player (or in rare cases even two) leaves and the remaining players suddenly start steamrolling the game. It's the same reason pooling of money was removed from the game. Concentrated farm beats dispersed farm.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
April 04 2014 14:06 GMT
#101736
On April 04 2014 23:02 Hagen0 wrote:
In Dota 1 I have seen plenty of instances in which 1 player (or in rare cases even two) leaves and the remaining players suddenly start steamrolling the game. It's the same reason pooling of money was removed from the game. Concentrated farm beats dispersed farm.


if i could kick one player in my team evry match and get his $$ instead id have a 90% winrate in matchmaking.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 04 2014 14:17 GMT
#101737
On April 04 2014 19:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
manta on tiny makes me cringe so hard

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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 14:43:42
April 04 2014 14:43 GMT
#101738
Reading/Listening to people's thoughts on TI4 invites seems like people are pretty set on that Empire would get one.

Now, I like Empire, but why exactly would they get an invite? They have good records playing online, but like no 'TI worthy' results. I mean they're not any more impressive than Sigma's for example. And TI invites have never appeared to be about how strong teams are by the date the invites go out, but by what you've actually achieved during the post TI season.
Once you Goblak...
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
April 04 2014 14:45 GMT
#101739
Manta on Tiny is a must in a 6 slotted hard carry. Agha,Bot,Daedlus,AC are core and you get Manta, Bfly, Satanic as your luxury items.

Manta is so cost effective and a must for Tiny. He is the best manta carrier out of all strength heroes and probably best manta hero in all dota. Why would you ever skip it ?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 04 2014 14:47 GMT
#101740
People are thinking "what EU teams don't suck monkey balls?" and its like "Fnatic/Alliance/Na'VI" then they need more so the next pure-EU team is Empire atm in terms of perceived skill.

C9/Dog are also really solid partially EU teams, although dog's short history makes it highly unlikely that they get an invite.
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