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Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
April 04 2014 14:48 GMT
#101741
On April 04 2014 23:43 teapoted wrote:
Reading/Listening to people's thoughts on TI4 invites seems like people are pretty set on that Empire would get one.

Now, I like Empire, but why exactly would they get an invite? They have good records playing online, but like no 'TI worthy' results. I mean they're not any more impressive than Sigma's for example. And TI invites have never appeared to be about how strong teams are by the date the invites go out, but by what you've actually achieved during the post TI season.


because invites are region based. Empire are by far the strongest Russian team.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 14:54:59
April 04 2014 14:51 GMT
#101742
On April 04 2014 23:43 teapoted wrote:
Reading/Listening to people's thoughts on TI4 invites seems like people are pretty set on that Empire would get one.

Now, I like Empire, but why exactly would they get an invite? They have good records playing online, but like no 'TI worthy' results. I mean they're not any more impressive than Sigma's for example. And TI invites have never appeared to be about how strong teams are by the date the invites go out, but by what you've actually achieved during the post TI season.


Its the patchnumber. Like, CIS, PR (allways) and Empire do better then expected this patch. Same shit within sc2, if they select players or teams over a period of a year, a quarter of good results could well be not enough for an invite. I think empire is rated alot higher then sigma, though. I think the teams below will certainly be invited if there are enough invites.

Empire, Navi, Alliance, fnatic
DK, IG, VG
C9, EG
Titan
Korean team

I like that CIS and PR but i dont think they will be invited, so qualifiers it is!

E : to eleven
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 04 2014 14:53 GMT
#101743
We know there are exactly 11 invites. You listed 12 teams.
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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
April 04 2014 14:55 GMT
#101744
Empire is good old organisation, they have alot fans in the cis scene, they have long term success, their funnik team was extremely good, now their new roster is definitely at top of cis scene,to me sounds like a good team to invite.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#101745
I think a lot of people would prefer a LGD/Newbee invite over Empire though.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
April 04 2014 15:00 GMT
#101746
On April 04 2014 23:55 zezamer wrote:
Empire is good old organisation, they have alot fans in the cis scene, they have long term success, their funnik team was extremely good, now their new roster is definitely at top of cis scene,to me sounds like a good team to invite.

Whenever people mention the Funn1k Empire I always remember this clip. (1.10 if the timer doesn't work)

리노크 👑
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 04 2014 15:01 GMT
#101747
bfly aghs (bkb?) daedalus bot satanic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
April 04 2014 15:01 GMT
#101748
On April 04 2014 23:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think a lot of people would prefer a LGD/Newbee invite over Empire though.

LGD maybe, but Newbee? I don' think they've shown enough at all.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
April 04 2014 15:02 GMT
#101749
You people seem to be ignoring my point.

Empire doesn't have the results. TI invites aren't based on 'how good are you now'.
Once you Goblak...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 15:04:11
April 04 2014 15:03 GMT
#101750
On April 05 2014 00:01 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think a lot of people would prefer a LGD/Newbee invite over Empire though.

LGD maybe, but Newbee? I don' think they've shown enough at all.

Yeah NB won't get an invite they are too new but people want to see them play.
@teapot: nobody else has "the results" either. There's been a relative dearth of tournaments since TI3.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 04 2014 15:04 GMT
#101751
I think at least 1 CIS team has to be invited beyond Na'Vi, so Empire seems logical

Korean team seems criminal, unfortunately.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 15:05:17
April 04 2014 15:05 GMT
#101752
On April 05 2014 00:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:01 Testuser wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think a lot of people would prefer a LGD/Newbee invite over Empire though.

LGD maybe, but Newbee? I don' think they've shown enough at all.

Yeah NB won't get an invite they are too new but people want to see them play.
@teapot: nobody else has "the results" either. There's been a relative dearth of tournaments since TI3.
There are teams who have better results than Empire.
Once you Goblak...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 15:09:47
April 04 2014 15:05 GMT
#101753
All those teams are already getting invited
Unless you want to provide specific team names for debate?
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 04 2014 15:10 GMT
#101754
Even if Newbee doesn't get a direct invite, they would qualify, they are incredibly good.

DK, VG and IG have proven themselves. If China can only have 3 invites, those are the 3 teams that should be invited.

If they have 4, then you have to pick Newbee's potential, or LGD past winnings before xiao8 left.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 15:14:23
April 04 2014 15:11 GMT
#101755
u for real
empire is already qualified for starladder finals
empire is 3/4 in d2cl
empire is in mlg tko finals
empire is currently #2 in dreamleague
empire is in jdl finals after being #1 in season

i dunno, theres literally no team with better results

cloud9 doesnt count since they pretty much already won ti4 anyways
saying empire doesnt deserve an invite is just dumb
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 15:27:25
April 04 2014 15:27 GMT
#101756
I hope Empire gets an invite because god knows they deserve it, they are just really cool(their twitter is awesome btw) and if I remember correctly were not invited to some tournaments despite them performing quite well.

I am not sure they will get it though.

LGD is ded

rip.
WriterXiao8~~
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 04 2014 15:28 GMT
#101757
On April 05 2014 00:27 Kipsate wrote:
I hope Empire gets an invite because god knows they deserve it, they are just really cool


Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 04 2014 15:31 GMT
#101758
Yeah empire got screwed on invites a few times. They weren't that good at that stage either but disaster tier 11 teams got invited over them due to sponsorship deals.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 15:53:58
April 04 2014 15:47 GMT
#101759
On April 05 2014 00:11 teddyoojo wrote:
u for real
empire is already qualified for starladder finals
empire is 3/4 in d2cl
empire is in mlg tko finals
empire is currently #2 in dreamleague
empire is in jdl finals after being #1 in season

i dunno, theres literally no team with better results

cloud9 doesnt count since they pretty much already won ti4 anyways
saying empire doesnt deserve an invite is just dumb
None of these are concrete results.

Look, I'm sure in a month, Empire will have the results. But in the period where the invites are being decided (which they probably already have been), they just didn't. They had a good run in a lot of online tournaments, that's all they had.

Really the only relevant result they have is the ESWC win.
Once you Goblak...
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 04 2014 15:53 GMT
#101760
On April 05 2014 00:47 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:11 teddyoojo wrote:
u for real
empire is already qualified for starladder finals
empire is 3/4 in d2cl
empire is in mlg tko finals
empire is currently #2 in dreamleague
empire is in jdl finals after being #1 in season

i dunno, theres literally no team with better results

cloud9 doesnt count since they pretty much already won ti4 anyways
saying empire doesnt deserve an invite is just dumb
None of these are concrete results.

Look, I'm sure in a month, Empire will have the results. But in the period where the invites are being decided (which they probably already have been), they just didn't. They had a good run in a lot of online tournaments, that's all they had.

Really the only relevant result they have is the ESWC win.

No other team have better results though.
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