On May 06 2012 18:31 Coal wrote: I'm rather new to Dota 2 and I'm not really 100 up to date with the current meta-game, but are other people doing lvl 1 Roshan too? I mean not like with the entire team like NextKZ did to Fnatic last night, but rather with two people?
So far I've done it with Ursa/Lich (super easy) Ursa/Brewmaster(also super easy) Ursa/Sven and Ursa/AM (rather tricky)
If we succeed, which we do 9 out of 10 times, we get aegis + tons of gold and both of us just one creep kill from lvl 4, we haven't lost a single game when we've done this successfully so far ^_^
Well, though Darer were a bit slow to realise in that game, I'd expect teams to check Roshan when they see an Ursa on the opposition. Only NEXT.kz really use Ursa though.
Infused picked the famous Ursa/SK combo against Na'Vi a while back but there plan was to fake Roshan and gank Na'Vi from behind with the aid of a smoke. However, Na'Vi ran top and sent wolves to scout Roshan so they knew Infused weren't doing level 1 Roshan.
There have been many instances of 5 man Roshan (you can do it with more or less any team with enough salves), but really you don't see 2 man Roshan, probably because you need Ursa and nobody picks him but also because it's a bit obvious at times.
On May 06 2012 18:31 Coal wrote: I'm rather new to Dota 2 and I'm not really 100 up to date with the current meta-game, but are other people doing lvl 1 Roshan too? I mean not like with the entire team like NextKZ did to Fnatic last night, but rather with two people?
So far I've done it with Ursa/Lich (super easy) Ursa/Brewmaster(also super easy) Ursa/Sven and Ursa/AM (rather tricky)
If we succeed, which we do 9 out of 10 times, we get aegis + tons of gold and both of us just one creep kill from lvl 4, we haven't lost a single game when we've done this successfully so far ^_^
Yea it happens from time to time in pubs. It is a risk, if people catch you at level 1 that could be a pretty nasty setback. As far as pro teams, I have seen it happen a few times. It is suuuuper risky but it can really catch a team off guard. Kind of like how a clever cheese works in starcraft. Big risk but big reward.
PL is such an easy hero to rice on. I find the first few minutes a lil hard because of his low base damage but after that I'm easilly hitting 200cs at 30-40 minutes.
his base dmg isnt bad at all, I dont have any problems lasthitting with him early at all, the only problem is he needs a babysitter or he gets shut down quite hard, but in games where I get an easy lane early Im getting like 100 cs by 15 no problem and after the radiance it just skyrockets because you can farm a lane and jungle at the same time
On May 06 2012 18:31 Coal wrote: I'm rather new to Dota 2 and I'm not really 100 up to date with the current meta-game, but are other people doing lvl 1 Roshan too? I mean not like with the entire team like NextKZ did to Fnatic last night, but rather with two people?
So far I've done it with Ursa/Lich (super easy) Ursa/Brewmaster(also super easy) Ursa/Sven and Ursa/AM (rather tricky)
If we succeed, which we do 9 out of 10 times, we get aegis + tons of gold and both of us just one creep kill from lvl 4, we haven't lost a single game when we've done this successfully so far ^_^
On May 06 2012 19:13 cilinder007 wrote: his base dmg isnt bad at all, I dont have any problems lasthitting with him early at all, the only problem is he needs a babysitter or he gets shut down quite hard, but in games where I get an easy lane early Im getting like 100 cs by 15 no problem and after the radiance it just skyrockets because you can farm a lane and jungle at the same time
Do you go quelling blade? I've only played a couple of games with him, so my last hitting problems might be because I'm not used to his animation.
At first I was concerned with VP in terms of communications issues, but Demon said on his stream that when he was playing with MYM with 4 danes, he eventually understood everything dota-related they were saying on ts. I guess language barrier is not as much of a problem after all.
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