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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 09:36:21
May 04 2012 09:35 GMT
#9781
On May 04 2012 17:47 BurningSera wrote:
i played rubbick in every game for a whole month back then, i dare to say that hero is balanced to a certain extend. he is not a game deciding factor and as an int he is not even close to those 'int carry'.

1.his can steal most spell but not all. and his nuke/skills are balanced except sometimes his small aoe stun makes me cringe.
2.giving a rubbick solo mid is no go (until some pro game to show me thats legit XD), is the same for giving invo mid but comes with wayyyy bigger risk. obviously in a game which 10players are competent and no retard picks.

i will actually put him in shit tier for his bad mobility, no escape mechanism, fragile and can be completely useless in late game. he is mainly there for fun but can be very strong against some line up/situation.


yes he's not game deciding, but laning against him is just ridiculous because of his low cd, relatively low manacost nuke which also reduces dmg
ffxiv enjoyer
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 04 2012 09:50 GMT
#9782
I've won 7 games in a row now...and I am scared. So frightened of what MM will throw at me. Somehow, been getting decent allies. But when will it end? This fear of the unknown, when the noobs will hit the fan (or more likely, land in my team), I can't take it. AhhhhhhH!
"I am a leaf on the wind."
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
May 04 2012 09:53 GMT
#9783
I do agree with you guys on the whole too easy to get featured thing. It seems any streamer from one of the big teams can immediately get featured even if they've never streamed before, and honestly some of them are not very good streamers. I don't remember it being so easy in sc2 / bw.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 04 2012 09:58 GMT
#9784
On May 04 2012 18:53 5-s wrote:
I do agree with you guys on the whole too easy to get featured thing. It seems any streamer from one of the big teams can immediately get featured even if they've never streamed before, and honestly some of them are not very good streamers. I don't remember it being so easy in sc2 / bw.


It started out being very easy but then they became far stricter. I can only assume the same thing will happen with dota 2. While game is still beta/new they will feature pros for being pros but later on they will be strict. It seems like a decent approach in my opinion but there's merits for being strict now as well.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#9785
On May 04 2012 17:47 BurningSera wrote:
i played rubbick in every game for a whole month back then, i dare to say that hero is balanced to a certain extend. he is not a game deciding factor and as an int he is not even close to those 'int carry'.

1.his can steal most spell but not all. and his nuke/skills are balanced except sometimes his small aoe stun makes me cringe.
2.giving a rubbick solo mid is no go (until some pro game to show me thats legit XD), is the same for giving invo mid but comes with wayyyy bigger risk. obviously in a game which 10players are competent and no retard picks.

i will actually put him in shit tier for his bad mobility, no escape mechanism, fragile and can be completely useless in late game. he is mainly there for fun but can be very strong against some line up/situation.


Why wouldn't you put him solo mid? He has a spammable AoE nuke to push waves for get rune control and telekinesis should be good enough to save him from ganks. Midgame you can gank quite easily with telekinesis, and in late game his aura will make sure your supports don't die to a single sk epicentre or something along those lines. Then there's his ulty which is a really random ability, imo. Might be worth the gamble, because it can win you a teamfight.

I see Rubic similarly to Shadowdemon, except sd can support and semi-carry, whereas Rubic can only solo.
super gg
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 10:07:59
May 04 2012 10:07 GMT
#9786
so why is rubick played as a support in competitive games then ?

and sd semi carry, wth ?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 04 2012 10:25 GMT
#9787
Yeah, SD solo mid completely outlanes almost all other heroes. Outlevel everyone else, get deso on him, kill everything with your own images etc. Problem is that you have no disables and late game other heroes start to over take him.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 04 2012 10:36 GMT
#9788
On May 04 2012 19:07 cilinder007 wrote:
so why is rubick played as a support in competitive games then ?

and sd semi carry, wth ?


Is he played as a support? I heard about one game he was used and the team that used him failed. And why wouldn't SD be a semi carry? He is playing solo mid from time to time.
super gg
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 04 2012 10:53 GMT
#9789
how does that make him a semi carry, I dont get it

you can get a deso on cm if you want that doesnt make her a semi carry
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 11:04:30
May 04 2012 11:02 GMT
#9790
On May 04 2012 19:53 cilinder007 wrote:
how does that make him a semi carry, I dont get it

you can get a deso on cm if you want that doesnt make her a semi carry


That kind of does make her "a semi carry". The term semi carry I know can be applied in a hero skillset aspect but I think it can also be applied in game to those that you are giving farm but aren't one of the "hard carry" heroes. So a CM with 6 slots of damage/hp owning it up could be called a "semi carry".

edit: It seems I should follow the conversation more sorry this little paragraph seems irrelevant.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 04 2012 11:03 GMT
#9791
On May 04 2012 19:53 cilinder007 wrote:
how does that make him a semi carry, I dont get it

you can get a deso on cm if you want that doesnt make her a semi carry


You don't get deso ffs, why would you? Semi-carry is probably a little misleading. Let's just say he's the solo mid hero and therefore gets more experience and farm then other heores. similarly to how windrunner is sometimes played solo mid, you rush a mek, force staff, sheep etc.
super gg
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
May 04 2012 11:11 GMT
#9792
i actually think that es going midas first is very feasible, if es keeps pulling at the 1minute 15s mark (and subsequently every minute) it's possible to get a midas by 10 mins
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 04 2012 11:26 GMT
#9793
On May 04 2012 20:11 konadora wrote:
i actually think that es going midas first is very feasible, if es keeps pulling at the 1minute 15s mark (and subsequently every minute) it's possible to get a midas by 10 mins


He'll have such mana issues early on though?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 04 2012 11:37 GMT
#9794
The ultimate troll is Bloodseeker using rupture on you and you using rupture on Bloodseeker.
WriterXiao8~~
Mota_V
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia40 Posts
May 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#9795
[image loading]


Awesome!
Let go of everything you fear to lose
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#9796
On May 04 2012 20:11 konadora wrote:
i actually think that es going midas first is very feasible, if es keeps pulling at the 1minute 15s mark (and subsequently every minute) it's possible to get a midas by 10 mins

If you don't stack the camp first you'll push the lane and it's not always sure you'll want to do that.
Ontop of that your enemies might block the spawn.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
May 04 2012 11:55 GMT
#9797
On May 04 2012 20:50 Mota_V wrote:
[image loading]


Awesome!

Oh man that is sick, I'd love to drink a bottle ^^
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#9798
On May 04 2012 20:11 konadora wrote:
i actually think that es going midas first is very feasible, if es keeps pulling at the 1minute 15s mark (and subsequently every minute) it's possible to get a midas by 10 mins

Midas costs 500+1400=1900

250 more and you have a blink dagger.

would you rather have the blink dagger or the midas.
WriterXiao8~~
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
May 04 2012 12:29 GMT
#9799
On May 04 2012 15:28 NB wrote:
aint got nothing on burning axaxaxax

but honestly, i want to see some quality into the stream that are being featured. the bar should be raised above than just 'being in a sponsored team'. Streams should provided educational constructive material(which i find in maelk and synderen) or straight up entertaining (singsing tobi)... something which is just half way such as Demon or ixMike, etc... should be considered carefully.



On May 04 2012 14:58 Hoban wrote:
I really enjoy ixmike88's stream. He does a lot of NADL and if you watch it analytically, you learn how to play support like a beast. Watching him earlier today and he was playing with Power.Net. I have to say...that kid is so impressive. First time I saw him play was the WE vs Captain Planet game, were he was definitely the MVP. Then every game I see him in since, it is like 500+ gpm carry. I think the game he played with ixmike he was a SF with 740+ GPM at the end. Ridiculous carry player and child prodigy.



seems like at least some people find it educational.


as for blitz's stream. his commentary is actually really good. he makes an effort to teach people of all skill levels how to play heroes, while also streaming scrims occasionally etc.
Writer
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 12:58:54
May 04 2012 12:58 GMT
#9800
357, Dai, KingJ: We never joined CLC
posted by Jaywalker, 13 minutes ago
After a week full of controversies, another controversy erupts as Yao '357' Yi, Zhou 'KingJ' Yang and Zengrong 'Dai' Lei released a joint statement explaining that the trio had in fact never joined CLC officially, and that CLC is falsifying claims and wrongfully demanding compensation for their transfer.

http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3012-357,-dai,-kingj-we-never-joined-clc

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