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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 19 2014 15:45 GMT
#97021
On February 19 2014 20:36 739 wrote:
Hey guys, short question. Haven't played Doto for 2 months, what changes were made? I heard Phoenix and Terrorblade were added. What else? Any noticeable nerfs/buffs? Items changes?

I was wondering where youv been :p
check the notes for 6.80, big changes across the board, es and brood arnt broken anymore being the biggest probably.
tinker got an aghs upgrade, some other neat stuff too.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 19 2014 16:00 GMT
#97022
my loot from full bloom event so far.
[image loading]

not too bad considering i didnt spent a dime and didnt have a team. + 2 ponies for getting into the top 10% :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
February 19 2014 17:07 GMT
#97023
Draskyl's stream now under SC2 o0
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 19 2014 17:09 GMT
#97024
I edited his stream to fix the link and somehow it got set to SC2...

More viewers than Jaedong at least.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
February 19 2014 17:11 GMT
#97025
On February 20 2014 02:09 Heyoka wrote:
I edited his stream to fix the link and somehow it got set to SC2...

More viewers than Jaedong at least.


Heyoka singlehandedly killing Dota 2.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 19 2014 17:24 GMT
#97026
Everyone needs to do their part.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 19 2014 17:24 GMT
#97027
Twitch admin switched draskyl stream from /draskyll to /draskyl yesterday.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 18:51:29
February 19 2014 18:36 GMT
#97028
possible d2cl spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
i don't want to take anything away from liquid but if you watch the game navi vs liquid game 1 you see why ember spirit doesn't offer much. Disable him, blow him up again and again and again, even in super lategame.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 18:43:20
February 19 2014 18:43 GMT
#97029
Ember's bad. You have to build glass cannon to do any relevant damage in teamfights, because flameguard gets popped soon and bolas don't do enough damage and are unreliable. But then you have no survival and die to a single stun/silence. Basically if Ember builds early bkb he's ignored, if he goes bfury/mael/deso he dies.
super gg
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 19 2014 18:45 GMT
#97030
maybe they pick a more serious lineup for this game
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 19 2014 18:49 GMT
#97031
19.3.2014 ITS HAPPENING GUYS ITS HAPPENING

+ Show Spoiler +
http://store.steampowered.com/app/245550/
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 19 2014 18:50 GMT
#97032
On February 20 2014 03:49 teddyoojo wrote:
19.3.2014 ITS HAPPENING GUYS ITS HAPPENING

+ Show Spoiler +
http://store.steampowered.com/app/245550/


OMFG its real! It only took them 3 years!
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 18:52:29
February 19 2014 18:51 GMT
#97033
the second screenshot made me lol.
The camera angle makes it so heroic, but that silhouette is no superman.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
February 19 2014 18:56 GMT
#97034
I always saw it as a potential problem of unfocused damage. Unless you have bfuries + poor enemy positioning Ember is spending a ton of time dealing damage spread evenly across the enemy team only to have SoF on cooldown for 6sec and an Ember that's likely not in melee range of anything (and if he is he's in great danger). So you're not really helping to burst anyone down outside of using your skill combos which is sort of the opposite of how a lot of carries work.

Sure on paper his DPS is high, but if you take a Luna or Gyro who can hammer away at one target and just happen to also wreck the rest of the enemy team at the same time it's not really comparable.

Or to put it another way Ember seems great at dealing DPS, but he's terrible at preventing damage from being done to your team. That's something other carries generally excel at by virtue of annihilating an enemy heroe before they deal too much damage. Maybe he makes up for it in ganking potential and mobility, maybe not. Either way when you consider stuff like positioning and the time it takes for SoF to go through it seems like Ember is losing a lot more DPS on a specific target to hit multiple targets than you get with other multi-hit heroes (dusa, gyro, luna, kunkka). Especially since SoF doesn't benefit from attack speed increases (via agility or otherwise).
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
February 19 2014 19:03 GMT
#97035
On February 20 2014 03:49 teddyoojo wrote:
19.3.2014 ITS HAPPENING GUYS ITS HAPPENING

+ Show Spoiler +
http://store.steampowered.com/app/245550/


So I assume that you need to download it and cannot stream it like on youtube?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 19 2014 19:45 GMT
#97036
why does it matter its for free
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 19 2014 19:50 GMT
#97037
People will rip it and put it on youtube anyway if you are worried.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 19 2014 19:54 GMT
#97038
and by youtube he meant putlocker and vidbull
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Xypski
Profile Joined December 2009
Denmark156 Posts
February 19 2014 20:29 GMT
#97039
On February 20 2014 03:43 cecek wrote:
Ember's bad. You have to build glass cannon to do any relevant damage in teamfights, because flameguard gets popped soon and bolas don't do enough damage and are unreliable. But then you have no survival and die to a single stun/silence. Basically if Ember builds early bkb he's ignored, if he goes bfury/mael/deso he dies.


You're right on the early BKB but wrong on everything else.
Horza
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 19 2014 21:10 GMT
#97040
On February 20 2014 05:29 Xypski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 03:43 cecek wrote:
Ember's bad. You have to build glass cannon to do any relevant damage in teamfights, because flameguard gets popped soon and bolas don't do enough damage and are unreliable. But then you have no survival and die to a single stun/silence. Basically if Ember builds early bkb he's ignored, if he goes bfury/mael/deso he dies.


You're right on the early BKB but wrong on everything else.

Could you explain why? Your post has exactly zero value as it is now.
super gg
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