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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 05 2014 02:56 GMT
#95901
On February 05 2014 11:48 xAdra wrote:
So how seriously do you guys take ability draft mode? I have friends who take it way too seriously, and friends who go in and troll non stop. I'm in the middle- I like to pick things that make sense but losing doesn't really impact my mood at all.

I understand that with all the skills mixed up there are too many variables for the fight to be balanced, and I have more fun trying out skill combos than actually winning.


Its fun, but you can't take it seriously unless you're prepared to get really shafted by your hero and ability sniped sometimes. In my last game i got riki (great start, a hero with poor stats due to his permanent invisibility that you may or may not have anymore!), had my eyes on 3 spells I wanted to try some combinations with, and the 3 people before me picked all of em. Quick! 5 seconds to make up a completely new plan with nothing to go on! And that happened every single round. Try to come up with a new plan, require that you get one of those 2 or 3 spells, and then have someone else take them in the same round.

The game before though I got bane. Not the greatest stats but decent int gain. So I went for massive aoe wreck train, and it was hilarious.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 05 2014 03:12 GMT
#95902
if im above 2k then how can 2k be the start point, i should be below the startpoint
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 05 2014 03:16 GMT
#95903
On February 05 2014 12:12 Targe wrote:
if im above 2k then how can 2k be the start point, i should be below the startpoint

You know how to use the store and have a vague idea that BKB, mek, force staff and pipe are all better items than Aghs 80% of the time. The trench is deep and you are not at the bottom.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 05 2014 03:35 GMT
#95904
http://dotabuff.com/players/11931417
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
February 05 2014 03:41 GMT
#95905
On February 05 2014 12:35 FinestHour wrote:
http://dotabuff.com/players/11931417

how can a person live life like this?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
February 05 2014 03:55 GMT
#95906
i guess he wants to have his momma.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 05 2014 03:55 GMT
#95907
hes arthas
the lich king
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 05 2014 05:43 GMT
#95908
On February 05 2014 11:48 xAdra wrote:
So how seriously do you guys take ability draft mode? I have friends who take it way too seriously, and friends who go in and troll non stop. I'm in the middle- I like to pick things that make sense but losing doesn't really impact my mood at all.

I understand that with all the skills mixed up there are too many variables for the fight to be balanced, and I have more fun trying out skill combos than actually winning.


I enjoy playing Dota seriously so I'm trying to win that too. Drafting is just a part of the game now, you gotta think fast.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
February 05 2014 07:58 GMT
#95909
On February 05 2014 12:55 FinestHour wrote:
hes arthas
the lich king

Come on, arthas' model is abbadon, not lich.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 05 2014 08:38 GMT
#95910
lich is a cool hero
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
February 05 2014 08:40 GMT
#95911
xahaxa i like how he doesnt have any variation in his item build either. tranq, mek/pipe, agh.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 08:49:55
February 05 2014 08:49 GMT
#95912
Your rating doesn't even increase in scale with your party members. Say, you have 2k rating and your friend has 4k. It's impossible for this 2k rated guy to ever get 4k if he plays only with 4k guy because both win and loes same amount of points. So practically your first 10 games can be most important games of your life if you play with stacks and care about rating.
as useful as teasalt
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
February 05 2014 09:08 GMT
#95913
On February 05 2014 17:49 Ryndika wrote:
Your rating doesn't even increase in scale with your party members. Say, you have 2k rating and your friend has 4k. It's impossible for this 2k rated guy to ever get 4k if he plays only with 4k guy because both win and loes same amount of points. So practically your first 10 games can be most important games of your life if you play with stacks and care about rating.

If you don't always queue with the same people, eventually your MMR will converge. If you always play with the same people, then your MMR won't converge but it won't matter in this case because your party MMR (average of your MMRs of something like this) will converge to the appropriate ranking for your party.
Road to 6sange
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
February 05 2014 09:28 GMT
#95914
On February 05 2014 03:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 03:50 Plansix wrote:
Lane control is a thing that everyone needs to learn. I can't deal with pub carries who can't keep the lane from pushing without a support pulling 100% of the time. How hard is it to auto attack your own creeps when they are at half health and no one is pressuring you?

Have you made a private lobby and frozen a lane for 5 minutes?

Its not *quite* as easy as you make it out to be. Still a skill all carry players should have but its really not THAT simple.

Full disclosure: I sometimes have problems doing this. Generally when my damage sucks at levels 1-5 or so. Once you get a dmg item it becomes trivial.

It really isn't all that hard
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
Xypski
Profile Joined December 2009
Denmark156 Posts
February 05 2014 09:32 GMT
#95915
On February 05 2014 17:49 Ryndika wrote:
Your rating doesn't even increase in scale with your party members. Say, you have 2k rating and your friend has 4k. It's impossible for this 2k rated guy to ever get 4k if he plays only with 4k guy because both win and loes same amount of points. So practically your first 10 games can be most important games of your life if you play with stacks and care about rating.



This argument would have some merit if we're talking about a rating difference of a few hundred. However, if you're a 4k rated player who somehow got 2k rating, even when stacked with a 4k rated friend, you'd be crushing games because your opponents would be like 3.2k rated.

Horza
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 10:44:40
February 05 2014 10:37 GMT
#95916
On February 05 2014 18:32 Xypski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 17:49 Ryndika wrote:
Your rating doesn't even increase in scale with your party members. Say, you have 2k rating and your friend has 4k. It's impossible for this 2k rated guy to ever get 4k if he plays only with 4k guy because both win and loes same amount of points. So practically your first 10 games can be most important games of your life if you play with stacks and care about rating.



This argument would have some merit if we're talking about a rating difference of a few hundred. However, if you're a 4k rated player who somehow got 2k rating, even when stacked with a 4k rated friend, you'd be crushing games because your opponents would be like 3.2k rated.


Crushing is even worse than getting stomped yourself.
My 2 other stack friends have 400-500 rating higher because of placement mataches. We play always as 3-5. Point is that my rating won't ever go as high as theirs - not that I even believe "a player is x rating level." And yes we stomp way too much - I guess it's general problem in dota that can't be fixed(stomps).
In my case the problem isn't practically a bad one but I see there potential for one and we don't even know how much ratings throw generally.
Still waiting for better TMM system.
as useful as teasalt
Xypski
Profile Joined December 2009
Denmark156 Posts
February 05 2014 10:44 GMT
#95917
On February 05 2014 19:37 Ryndika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:32 Xypski wrote:
On February 05 2014 17:49 Ryndika wrote:
Your rating doesn't even increase in scale with your party members. Say, you have 2k rating and your friend has 4k. It's impossible for this 2k rated guy to ever get 4k if he plays only with 4k guy because both win and loes same amount of points. So practically your first 10 games can be most important games of your life if you play with stacks and care about rating.



This argument would have some merit if we're talking about a rating difference of a few hundred. However, if you're a 4k rated player who somehow got 2k rating, even when stacked with a 4k rated friend, you'd be crushing games because your opponents would be like 3.2k rated.


Crushing is even worse than getting stomped yourself.
My 2 other stack friends have 400-500 rating higher because of placement mataches. We play always as 3-5. Point is that my rating won't ever go as high as theirs - not that I even believe "a player is x rating level." And yes we stomp way too much - I guess it's general problem in dota that can't be fixed(stomps).

Still waiting for better TMM system.



Idk, i've been catching up slowly to some of my teammates since the inception of the rating system. But I get your point.

I don't know what kind of masochist you are to prefer being stomped to stomping though. D:
Horza
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
February 05 2014 12:02 GMT
#95918
Can you guys use custom HUDs since last patch ? My Stone Ruin HUD doesn't work...
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 05 2014 12:12 GMT
#95919
On February 05 2014 21:02 BlitzerSC wrote:
Can you guys use custom HUDs since last patch ? My Stone Ruin HUD doesn't work...

Custom huds never work on season maps
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 05 2014 12:14 GMT
#95920
ye, fuck this shitty season hud
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
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