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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 28 2014 18:27 GMT
#95041
On January 29 2014 03:14 AwfuL_ wrote:
Some good money for the better US teams.. and great practice for the others. Pretty amazing announcement

It includes EU teams AKA Fnatic, Na'Vi, Sigma, Speed...
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AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
January 28 2014 18:29 GMT
#95042
On January 29 2014 03:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 03:14 AwfuL_ wrote:
Some good money for the better US teams.. and great practice for the others. Pretty amazing announcement

It includes EU teams AKA Fnatic, Na'Vi, Sigma, Speed...


No the league play and moneys are split in two
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 28 2014 18:35 GMT
#95043
Cool stuff from MLG :o
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
January 28 2014 18:38 GMT
#95044
On January 29 2014 01:53 TheYango wrote:
You don't need to hit them with the active for the Attack Speed slow, which is the most influential part of it in teamfights.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 22:13 Asymmetric wrote:
I think it may be a decent option under the following circumstances:

- Your having a good game with tinker, but your team is doing terrible.

+

- You have a decent defensive hard carry on your team.

If both of those are true, I can see rushing aghs+blink on tinker after bots/soulring/bottle just to stall, stall, stall and stall the game out at every single opportunity and try to take the game late. I mean a sheep stick, as good as it is on tinker, takes longer to build and is probably not going to win you the game at this point anyway if you team is doing bad enough they don't have any damage output. 4x rockets + 1100 range laser at around 22/23 minutes though is some serious area denial.

Just speculation.

In this scenario you need to be able to make solo pressure, which is when you'd get Dagon. Agha increases your teamfight effectiveness, but not your solo-killing power.



Depends on the oppositions line up and how they play.

If they have a strong 5 man pushing line up and just group mid and head straight for your racks 25 minutes in then I can see Agh's being a viable deterrent.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 28 2014 18:41 GMT
#95045
On January 29 2014 03:20 Mataza wrote:
I don't blink aggressive in teamfights, you just assume that.

Usually my tinker games involve me splitpushing and the enemy team pushing as 5 and my team unable to defend.

Another way to say 'I have no idea how to play tinker and this is why my team loses when i play tinker' Aka you take all the farm and do nothing that tinker is good at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 28 2014 18:42 GMT
#95046
On January 29 2014 03:41 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 03:20 Mataza wrote:
I don't blink aggressive in teamfights, you just assume that.

Usually my tinker games involve me splitpushing and the enemy team pushing as 5 and my team unable to defend.

Another way to say 'I have no idea how to play tinker and this is why my team loses when i play tinker' Aka you take all the farm and do nothing that tinker is good at.

If you aren't stealing farm why are you playing tinker?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 18:51:21
January 28 2014 18:42 GMT
#95047
On January 29 2014 03:38 Asymmetric wrote:
If they have a strong 5 man pushing line up and just group mid and head straight for your racks 25 minutes in then I can see Agh's being a viable deterrent.

If that's what they're doing then the incremental gain of Agh's for 4k isn't that high over your usual pattern of double March + Rocket spam. You get those 2 additional rockets if there happen to be 2 other targets in vision to get rocketed, but typically 4+ heroes aren't going to show themselves in vision in a 5-man push. A lot of the time several supports/initiators will be hiding out on the side to find a pick/counter-initiate.

On January 29 2014 03:41 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 03:20 Mataza wrote:
I don't blink aggressive in teamfights, you just assume that.

Usually my tinker games involve me splitpushing and the enemy team pushing as 5 and my team unable to defend.

Another way to say 'I have no idea how to play tinker and this is why my team loses when i play tinker' Aka you take all the farm and do nothing that tinker is good at.

It's actually pretty annoying how common you see Tinkers being the one to split-push when Tinker also happens to be one of the best anti-push heroes in the game. Yes you have Travels, but double Marching that single creep wave on their side of the map is way less effective than double Marching in front of your tower and watching their push evaporate.

It's not even "stealing farm" at that point because you're just outright getting less gold from double Marching a single creep wave rather than using it on their stacked up waves that are pushing your tower while ALSO being less useful to your team.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
January 28 2014 18:44 GMT
#95048
On January 29 2014 03:20 Mataza wrote:
I don't blink aggressive in teamfights, you just assume that.

Usually my tinker games involve me splitpushing and the enemy team pushing as 5 and my team unable to defend.

Why in the world are you even trying to argue for Aghs if you only use him to push out lanes? In fact why even play Tinker over Nature's Prophet?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 28 2014 19:03 GMT
#95049
http://blog.dota2.com/2014/01/rebirth-in-the-new-bloom-festival/
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 28 2014 19:04 GMT
#95050
OMG PATCH 2MORROW AND PHOENIX OMG
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 28 2014 19:06 GMT
#95051
Replay Takeover.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 28 2014 19:06 GMT
#95052
On January 29 2014 04:06 PassiveAce wrote:
Replay Takeover.

Seems really really cool for some teams / etc.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 28 2014 19:06 GMT
#95053
Yo now I can see placed sentry range thats huge :D
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 28 2014 19:06 GMT
#95054
is phoenix any good?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:09:30
January 28 2014 19:07 GMT
#95055
can sell items when dead (if item was bought while dead) and context-sensitive skill ping too
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 28 2014 19:07 GMT
#95056
It was absurdly OP at one point. Not sure how it is now.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:08:32
January 28 2014 19:07 GMT
#95057
Items that have been purchased while dead can now be sold, if that item was bought during the same death. Previously, no items could be sold while dead.

This is a big deal for baddies like me.

Holding ALT and clicking on an ability will now issue a context-sensitive ping for that ability. This can be used to indicate whether the pinged ability is ready for use, if you do not have enough mana to use this ability, or to indicate the number of seconds remaining on that ability’s cooldown.

this is super kewl
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
January 28 2014 19:09 GMT
#95058
He was a beast in 6.73. Now he is relatively weak.
AoD
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
January 28 2014 19:11 GMT
#95059
Yango tell us how good is phoenix atm
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 28 2014 19:11 GMT
#95060
phoenix !
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