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BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
January 10 2014 04:49 GMT
#93401
i can't update at all. it just finishes update and when i click play tells me to either update or launch game. when i launch game everytime i join a server it just crashes my game and when i click update it re-downloads the update wtf?
YOLO
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 10 2014 04:54 GMT
#93402
On January 10 2014 13:49 BigAsia wrote:
i can't update at all. it just finishes update and when i click play tells me to either update or launch game. when i launch game everytime i join a server it just crashes my game and when i click update it re-downloads the update wtf?


Turn off your anti-virus.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
January 10 2014 05:55 GMT
#93403
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/26536-chuan-hao-xiao8-faith-and-mu-to-likely-form-dream-team

lol wat
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 10 2014 05:59 GMT
#93404
If they are "Evergrande" then that will be abbreviated to EG!
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 10 2014 06:16 GMT
#93405
college student receives money from parents to start professional dota 2 team

lol
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
January 10 2014 06:30 GMT
#93406
If anyone cares, Meracle starting streaming on twitch right now.
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 06:33:09
January 10 2014 06:31 GMT
#93407
On January 10 2014 15:16 FinestHour wrote:
college student receives money from parents to start professional dota 2 team

lol



Then you find out the parents are billionaires and its not so stupid sounding. If I had millions I'd definitely have my own dota team.

edit: Meracle link?
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 07:41:07
January 10 2014 07:26 GMT
#93408
http://www.twitch.tv/meraclechamlotte
'
rofl what a game this latest naga game
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 10 2014 08:33 GMT
#93409
Anyone know if there's a command or something to access a guild that doesn't have an image?
When selecting guilds the image is the link to access it, but because this specific one doesn't have one it doesn't switch
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
January 10 2014 10:37 GMT
#93410
I wonder what you think guys.

What I observe from my last 50 games or so is, people tend to 5 man so early even before 10 minutes of the game in pubs. Then pick of who is roaming around the tower , then take the tower and change the lane to do the same.
I am pretty sure people were trying to win the lanes at least, or farm mid game items etc.. before
Generally I play solo and couldn't matched with proper mates to respond this kind of play. My thought is, 3-4 man should defend the tower while 1-2 farm other lanes and kind of split push. Or face-rush-kill them so hard when they push.At the end we lose towers, huge gold difference, no map control and eventually lose the game.

Funny thing is, not the line-ups are suitable for pushing, just the factor of 5 man. Is it because of latest patch or becoming a pub trend?


“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 10 2014 11:03 GMT
#93411
On January 10 2014 19:37 Laserist wrote:
I wonder what you think guys.

What I observe from my last 50 games or so is, people tend to 5 man so early even before 10 minutes of the game in pubs. Then pick of who is roaming around the tower , then take the tower and change the lane to do the same.
I am pretty sure people were trying to win the lanes at least, or farm mid game items etc.. before
Generally I play solo and couldn't matched with proper mates to respond this kind of play. My thought is, 3-4 man should defend the tower while 1-2 farm other lanes and kind of split push. Or face-rush-kill them so hard when they push.At the end we lose towers, huge gold difference, no map control and eventually lose the game.

Funny thing is, not the line-ups are suitable for pushing, just the factor of 5 man. Is it because of latest patch or becoming a pub trend?

I just think it's a pub trend. dual lanes are more common now, which makes it harder to gank and harder to free-farm, so people get their basic items and start looking for blood. Having a subset defend while 1-2 farm is optimal vs 5 man offensive play, but far harder to pull off in pubs since it demands the people defending know what they are doing and the farmers are ready to TP in.

Personally when I play a carry solo, I don't dare depend on my teammates to defend 5man pushes, so I'm pretty much forced to go defend, and once you leave your lane and join the rest, it's easy to fall into the situation where you just keep roaming as 5.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
January 10 2014 11:16 GMT
#93412
I don't think pubtraining a new thing in this patch at all. The 5man pubtrain has always been a staple, and splitting up to push out lanes and farm is the correct counterplay.

thing is, a lot of pubbers out there seem to think that the only reasonable response to 5 guys in mid is your own 5 guys in mid, when this isn't very true.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 10 2014 11:30 GMT
#93413
Well the other problem is that if one of the solo farmers does't watch his minimap, he can easily get caught -> lose a tower.
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 11:47:19
January 10 2014 11:33 GMT
#93414
Every game I play has 1 mid, two dudes on the safelane, 1 hardlane and 1 dude in the woods (usually useless for >40% of the game). I wish dual lanes were more common in my games, but you know, there is always that 1 guy who has to pick Nature's Prophet/Lifestealer and go to the woods...
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
January 10 2014 11:44 GMT
#93415
On January 10 2014 20:33 BlitzerSC wrote:
Every game I play has 1 mid, two dudes on the safelane, 1 hardlane and 1 dude in the woods (usually useless for >40% of the game). I wish dual lanes where more common in my games, but you know, there is always that 1 guy who has to pick Nature's Prophet/Lifestealer and go to the woods...


or fucking LC. it's like a bad ursa. why do people do this?
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
January 10 2014 12:01 GMT
#93416
I have a tendency to join in fight as NP with just Phase lol RoTK tp is too stronk
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 12:24:52
January 10 2014 12:02 GMT
#93417
Network toast again. Can't que for EU and network down constantly.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 10 2014 12:30 GMT
#93418
On January 10 2014 21:02 Grettin wrote:
Network toast again. Can't que for EU and network down constantly.

Lord Gaben is telling you to read a book....about dota.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 10 2014 13:15 GMT
#93419
On January 10 2014 20:03 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 19:37 Laserist wrote:
I wonder what you think guys.

What I observe from my last 50 games or so is, people tend to 5 man so early even before 10 minutes of the game in pubs. Then pick of who is roaming around the tower , then take the tower and change the lane to do the same.
I am pretty sure people were trying to win the lanes at least, or farm mid game items etc.. before
Generally I play solo and couldn't matched with proper mates to respond this kind of play. My thought is, 3-4 man should defend the tower while 1-2 farm other lanes and kind of split push. Or face-rush-kill them so hard when they push.At the end we lose towers, huge gold difference, no map control and eventually lose the game.

Funny thing is, not the line-ups are suitable for pushing, just the factor of 5 man. Is it because of latest patch or becoming a pub trend?

I just think it's a pub trend. dual lanes are more common now, which makes it harder to gank and harder to free-farm, so people get their basic items and start looking for blood. Having a subset defend while 1-2 farm is optimal vs 5 man offensive play, but far harder to pull off in pubs since it demands the people defending know what they are doing and the farmers are ready to TP in.

Personally when I play a carry solo, I don't dare depend on my teammates to defend 5man pushes, so I'm pretty much forced to go defend, and once you leave your lane and join the rest, it's easy to fall into the situation where you just keep roaming as 5.


Definitely a pub trend. Its been like this for a while; just been getting progressively worse.

It wouldn't be an issue if pub teams knew how to split push properly...or defend as 3-4 whilst someone farms...or carry TPs...or a whole bunch of other things. Unfortunately many don't so 5-man sub-10-minute facerush strategy works ridiculously well even without a pushing lineup.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 10 2014 13:58 GMT
#93420
Are you people actually complaining that people are fighting early in pubs instead of farming? Isn't that like infinitely more fun to play?
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