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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 09 2014 18:43 GMT
#93361
Don't you just right click on enemy then play with your cats.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 09 2014 18:43 GMT
#93362
Well if one guy maxes corrosive and the other doesn't get it at all then who wins? Because it'd be really hard to win the lasthit war down points in nethertoxin but skin guy could probably just harass and win like that.

As soon as they both have you obviously have to max it LOL.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 09 2014 18:44 GMT
#93363
well u cant attack the enemy if he maxed corrosive and u dont even have it
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 09 2014 18:46 GMT
#93364
On January 10 2014 03:44 teddyoojo wrote:
well u cant attack the enemy if he maxed corrosive and u dont even have it

Especially with 0 cd orb.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 09 2014 18:47 GMT
#93365
Its ez. Max corrosive, if he doesnt have a tp hit him then tp back to base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 18:58:24
January 09 2014 18:51 GMT
#93366
I wonder if he would have time to run to fountain if u both got corrosive lvl 1

E: yeah he totally would since he'd have over a minute lol. Still, possibly the dumbest mid matchup of all time.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 19:15:15
January 09 2014 19:14 GMT
#93367
On January 10 2014 03:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well if one guy maxes corrosive and the other doesn't get it at all then who wins? Because it'd be really hard to win the lasthit war down points in nethertoxin but skin guy could probably just harass and win like that.

As soon as they both have you obviously have to max it LOL.

Nethertoxin doesn't work on denies. Rank 1 Nethertoxin should actually be enough for both players to rarely be able to deny each other, and further Nethertoxin ranks don't really change that.

So yeah, it'd just be Corrosive.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 09 2014 19:55 GMT
#93368
Seems to be a slow day in the doter world.

Needs more juicy chinese-scene shakeup drama.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 09 2014 20:06 GMT
#93369
aaaaaaaaaaaaand NS is already back.

That didn't take very long.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 09 2014 21:20 GMT
#93370
btw i heard it quite a few times now, is it true you get less mmr if u win before 25 min?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 09 2014 21:23 GMT
#93371
Nobody really knows

Best guess is that fast stomps are the games where you were supposed to win anyway so thats why you get less MMR.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 21:25:23
January 09 2014 21:24 GMT
#93372
On January 10 2014 06:20 teddyoojo wrote:
btw i heard it quite a few times now, is it true you get less mmr if u win before 25 min?


I don't see why how long the game lasts should have any impact on the mmr you gained. Your skill relative to the skill of your opponents and your teammates is what matters.

Battle points on the other hand increases constantly as the game goes on.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 09 2014 21:30 GMT
#93373
I wouldn't be surprised if 25 minute games are valued lower since that has to be pretty fricking onesided and probably dependant on someone leaving (but that's on my MMR level, I'm sure games can be that quick without the opponents being terrible/leaving at a higher level if you run a push strat etc).
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
January 09 2014 21:35 GMT
#93374
On January 10 2014 06:30 Tobberoth wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if 25 minute games are valued lower since that has to be pretty fricking onesided and probably dependant on someone leaving (but that's on my MMR level, I'm sure games can be that quick without the opponents being terrible/leaving at a higher level if you run a push strat etc).


I don't see why time should be a restriction. If the game was onesided before it even started, the game probably took that into its calculations. Which is why you seemingly get less the shorter the game is. And vice versa why long games tend to yield more points, as those are the games where you are facing your toughest opponents.

They really haven't released any information about this though, so we can only guess. But don't believe what people in games tell you. Remember the craze on battle.net during war3 where everyone for some dumb reason or the other thought that the game would load faster if you spammed f4?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 09 2014 21:39 GMT
#93375
On January 10 2014 06:35 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 06:30 Tobberoth wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if 25 minute games are valued lower since that has to be pretty fricking onesided and probably dependant on someone leaving (but that's on my MMR level, I'm sure games can be that quick without the opponents being terrible/leaving at a higher level if you run a push strat etc).


I don't see why time should be a restriction. If the game was onesided before it even started, the game probably took that into its calculations. Which is why you seemingly get less the shorter the game is. And vice versa why long games tend to yield more points, as those are the games where you are facing your toughest opponents.

They really haven't released any information about this though, so we can only guess. But don't believe what people in games tell you. Remember the craze on battle.net during war3 where everyone for some dumb reason or the other thought that the game would load faster if you spammed f4?

War3 did load faster when you were tabbed out thou :>
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 09 2014 21:41 GMT
#93376
i remember the days when one person would dc during the load and everyone would wait 2hours
fuck you random stranger all i wanted to play was orc vs nelves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 09 2014 21:42 GMT
#93377
"Alt-F4 saves the game in memory so you load faster next time!"
huehuehue

Actually never used that particular example but still.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 09 2014 22:03 GMT
#93378
On January 10 2014 06:41 Erasme wrote:
i remember the days when one person would dc during the load and everyone would wait 2hours
fuck you random stranger all i wanted to play was orc vs nelves

not like some ppl didnt load for 10 minutes on certain custom maps anyhow with their goddamn calculator pcs
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Vikeif
Profile Joined September 2009
126 Posts
January 09 2014 23:25 GMT
#93379
On January 10 2014 07:03 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 06:41 Erasme wrote:
i remember the days when one person would dc during the load and everyone would wait 2hours
fuck you random stranger all i wanted to play was orc vs nelves

not like some ppl didnt load for 10 minutes on certain custom maps anyhow with their goddamn calculator pcs


You mean like dota before the patch where they implemented load optimization? Heh heh
Eschew obfuscation
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 10 2014 01:00 GMT
#93380
http://www.dota2.com/maintenance/

Large-scale maintenance coming up. January 22nd is the day the whole of EU gets taken over by the Russians.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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