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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
January 10 2014 13:59 GMT
#93421
its the most fun when your team has antimage and opponents go 5 man all day long
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 10 2014 14:01 GMT
#93422
only thing thats worked for me against that 5man thing is to just trade a tower on another one of their lanes
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 10 2014 14:03 GMT
#93423
On January 10 2014 22:58 cecek wrote:
Are you people actually complaining that people are fighting early in pubs instead of farming? Isn't that like infinitely more fun to play?


They cant play there pl anymore
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 10 2014 14:09 GMT
#93424
On January 10 2014 22:59 zezamer wrote:
its the most fun when your team has antimage and opponents go 5 man all day long

I love playing against antimage and shutting him down so early. There is nothing like the dead weight of an antimage on the enemy team to win you the game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 14:13:19
January 10 2014 14:12 GMT
#93425
On January 10 2014 22:58 cecek wrote:
Are you people actually complaining that people are fighting early in pubs instead of farming? Isn't that like infinitely more fun to play?


Not really. I like small bits of action all over the map and a decent length game. Not just 5-man defend towers for the entirety of the game; or the famous "team dance" with two teams running back and forth facing each other too scared to engage (usually either at the river mid or up into a team's base). Its not much fun when people ball up as five as soon as they hit 6, smash a lane, rotate and smash, rotate and smash and then start looking for rax at the fifteen-twenty minute mark because nobody carries a TP in a pub so there's nothing to defend with.

Theoretically you beat it by defending 3-4 and farming up a core separately. In practice pubs can't handle that and if someone tries to farm up a core whilst the rest of the team defends then inevitably someone will start cying "GG OUR CARRY NOT FIGHTING WITH US REPORT PLS". So in effect there's no way for a pub team to fight it except 5-man vs 5-man at a disadvantage; or to get in with a facerush first.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 10 2014 14:24 GMT
#93426
When I get in that situation, I usually go farm, try to splitpush and spam "DONT FIGHT, JUST STALL THEM, IM NOT THERE" in the chat. Doesn't always work obviously, but I can't think of anything better if the enemy has stronger 5man.
super gg
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 10 2014 14:29 GMT
#93427
On January 10 2014 23:24 cecek wrote:
When I get in that situation, I usually go farm, try to splitpush and spam "DONT FIGHT, JUST STALL THEM, IM NOT THERE" in the chat. Doesn't always work obviously, but I can't think of anything better if the enemy has stronger 5man.

More often than not your team still feel the need to run downhill from base and engage the enemy team.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 10 2014 14:35 GMT
#93428
The worst part about playing against antimage is when team mates try to chase him while split pushing. I can't tell you the number of times I have told team mates: "stop, you are not going to solo kill him. Not dying is what antimage does. Just push harder then him."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 10 2014 16:12 GMT
#93429
On January 10 2014 23:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 22:59 zezamer wrote:
its the most fun when your team has antimage and opponents go 5 man all day long

I love playing against antimage and shutting him down so early. There is nothing like the dead weight of an antimage on the enemy team to win you the game.

Playing LD against a lane including AM is sooooo satisfying
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 10 2014 16:23 GMT
#93430
On January 11 2014 01:12 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 23:09 Plansix wrote:
On January 10 2014 22:59 zezamer wrote:
its the most fun when your team has antimage and opponents go 5 man all day long

I love playing against antimage and shutting him down so early. There is nothing like the dead weight of an antimage on the enemy team to win you the game.

Playing LD against a lane including AM is sooooo satisfying

Why, they only need to get a single stun off and he can jump you and kill you ^
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 10 2014 16:30 GMT
#93431
Thats not really how LD lanes work
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 10 2014 16:55 GMT
#93432
Playing LD in lane is basically just denying everything and waiting to hit 5.

And it sounds like you are dual laning LD. O.o
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 10 2014 17:06 GMT
#93433
On January 11 2014 01:23 StoRm_res wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 01:12 nojok wrote:
On January 10 2014 23:09 Plansix wrote:
On January 10 2014 22:59 zezamer wrote:
its the most fun when your team has antimage and opponents go 5 man all day long

I love playing against antimage and shutting him down so early. There is nothing like the dead weight of an antimage on the enemy team to win you the game.

Playing LD against a lane including AM is sooooo satisfying

Why, they only need to get a single stun off and he can jump you and kill you ^

325 base ms and a venomous bear guarding you is enough to prevent those things from happening. On the other hand, a low hp AM going for last hits when LD reached level 5 is playing Russian roulette.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
January 10 2014 17:21 GMT
#93434
I dont usually counterpick but when I do I pick Riki against AM.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
January 10 2014 18:05 GMT
#93435
On January 10 2014 23:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 22:58 cecek wrote:
Are you people actually complaining that people are fighting early in pubs instead of farming? Isn't that like infinitely more fun to play?


Not really. I like small bits of action all over the map and a decent length game. Not just 5-man defend towers for the entirety of the game; or the famous "team dance" with two teams running back and forth facing each other too scared to engage (usually either at the river mid or up into a team's base). Its not much fun when people ball up as five as soon as they hit 6, smash a lane, rotate and smash, rotate and smash and then start looking for rax at the fifteen-twenty minute mark because nobody carries a TP in a pub so there's nothing to defend with.

Theoretically you beat it by defending 3-4 and farming up a core separately. In practice pubs can't handle that and if someone tries to farm up a core whilst the rest of the team defends then inevitably someone will start cying "GG OUR CARRY NOT FIGHTING WITH US REPORT PLS". So in effect there's no way for a pub team to fight it except 5-man vs 5-man at a disadvantage; or to get in with a facerush first.

Just say " il tp if they engage". I dont think dota players are nearly as irrational and you imply
Dodge arrows
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 10 2014 18:21 GMT
#93436
I personally like the new meta. You have to be able to back up your greed with a team that can defend towers. It opens the door to more heroes, more line ups and awesome combos. Plus, anything that gets tusk into the meta it's good for everyone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 10 2014 18:28 GMT
#93437
On January 10 2014 23:29 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 23:24 cecek wrote:
When I get in that situation, I usually go farm, try to splitpush and spam "DONT FIGHT, JUST STALL THEM, IM NOT THERE" in the chat. Doesn't always work obviously, but I can't think of anything better if the enemy has stronger 5man.

More often than not your team still feel the need to run downhill from base and engage the enemy team.

this is too true
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 19:26:43
January 10 2014 19:18 GMT
#93438
Edit I mjust going to assume radiant wins nvm.
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 10 2014 19:21 GMT
#93439
Reading through 2013 TL Awards reminded me, I had a teammate accidentally deny the Aegis in a match a couple of days ago, first time I've ever seen it outside of kyxy's at TI3.
We were stomping so it didn't matter but was still hilarious
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
January 10 2014 19:23 GMT
#93440
On January 11 2014 04:21 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Reading through 2013 TL Awards reminded me, I had a teammate accidentally deny the Aegis in a match a couple of days ago, first time I've ever seen it outside of kyxy's at TI3.
We were stomping so it didn't matter but was still hilarious

I've seen it happen once as well. Tons of times on purpose though.
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