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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
On April 27 2012 02:11 scorch- wrote: Na'Vi picked jugg as part of a push strat with enchantress and witch doctor and took a tier 2 tower 3 or 4 minutes into the game. I'm talking about DotA 1 in regards to competitive play since DotA 2 is incomplete. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
Also I've been enjoying DK and morph a lot lately. What are your guys opinions on Eblade on morph, and what item build is good for DK? I've been going treads, domi, armlet, bkb, AC. satanic, but not really sure if that's the right way to build him. On morph I've been having a lot of fun with early Eblade but it seems kinda bad if the game goes into late game. | ||
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
On April 27 2012 03:44 hunts wrote: So I'm still pretty new to dota. I mean I've played it forever, but I used to play dota1 like maybe a few games a week, never really cared to learn it. Was wondering if someone could maybe give a list or a link to one of what are actual strong carries and what are just pubstomp heroes that aren't actually strong. Same for supports/gankers if possible. I'm finding it really interesting how a lot of the heroes that seem to do very well in pubs and be very popular turn out to not actually be good at high level play. Also I've been enjoying DK and morph a lot lately. What are your guys opinions on Eblade on morph, and what item build is good for DK? I've been going treads, domi, armlet, bkb, AC. satanic, but not really sure if that's the right way to build him. On morph I've been having a lot of fun with early Eblade but it seems kinda bad if the game goes into late game. I dislike Ethereal Blade on morph, since you only get a bit of burst dmg and then you're unable to attack for some time (unless you use BKB). DK: Chinese DK's usually get Ptreads, Hood/Vanguard (depending on enemy composition), sometimes Drums, Assault Cuirass, BKB - and usually the game ends there. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 27 2012 03:53 Pseudoku wrote: I dislike Ethereal Blade on morph, since you only get a bit of burst dmg and then you're unable to attack for some time (unless you use BKB). Manta Style also removes the EBlade active from yourself. EBlade is situational on Morph. Either you get it because the teams in question make high burst damage very effective, or the EBlade active is likely to get high effectiveness against certain enemy carries. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 27 2012 03:53 Pseudoku wrote: I dislike Ethereal Blade on morph, since you only get a bit of burst dmg and then you're unable to attack for some time (unless you use BKB). DK: Chinese DK's usually get Ptreads, Hood/Vanguard (depending on enemy composition), sometimes Drums, Assault Cuirass, BKB - and usually the game ends there. Vanguard isn't gotten on DK anymore. Usually they will get Pipe if there are no Pipe holders and they need it, then BKB then Mjolnir/AC. After that item choice usually gets situational. eb on morph is very strong. if you have a very strong morph you can knock supports out of teamfights immediately, especially if they are out of position | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
It just seems to work really well with Fatal Bonds. I know it doesn't boost the HP Reduction damage of bonds itself, but 20% of x*1.25% is a larger number. It seems like you end up dealing a lot of extra damage overall. Plus with Warlock's ult you're pretty much sure to be able to get off a good Veil. Take a 300 damage AoE nuke vs a team with no magic resistance (optimistic, but still). It normally does 225 damage, with veil it does 281 damage, that's +56 damage per target hit or 280 damage if you hit the whole team. Now if we have everyone bonded together we also deal 20% of that 56 damage as additional bond damage or another 220 damage if you hit the whole team (but nothing else). So that seems not too shabby, +500 damage from a single aoe magic damage spell by having fatal bonds & veil. On top of that this also applies to the Immolation aura from the ultimate. The 50dps burn goes up to 62.5dps (before reduction). Sure it's not as good as having a 2nd burn aura around from a 2nd golem, but the veil is much cheaper and pretty damn easy to build. | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
i like phantom lancer, looking good. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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paper
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On April 27 2012 05:19 Kipsate wrote: PL could be fun, I see that some of Undying and Visage has also been put in, not a fan of Dirge but I am looking forward to Visage. Chaos Knight is looking great though. I wish ck looks like golbez on a horse. That would be so cool. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On April 27 2012 05:20 paper wrote: people enjoy playing visage? Whats wrong with that?I find him to be a very entertaining hero. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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paper
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On April 26 2012 21:34 Doraemon wrote: do you guys prefer legacy or qwer? i was tempted to switch to qwer but left it as legacy, it looks like QWER is more efficient? hmm only use legacy when i use my beloved slardar :DDDDD i always needed a pause lol | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 27 2012 05:25 Kipsate wrote: Whats wrong with that?I find him to be a very entertaining hero. You're also like the only person in the world who's most wanted hero in DotA 2 is Medusa. On April 27 2012 05:21 rabidch wrote: please put in ck, tc, gs asap. i wish Could care less about CK, but fuck yes to TC and Shredder. | ||
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kethers
United States719 Posts
On April 27 2012 05:20 paper wrote: people enjoy playing visage? Visage is a very strong tri-laner due to the huge amounts of burst damage he can put out in skirmishes with Soul Assumption. Also, his ultimate provides additional lane control and is a decent stun if chained correctly. His Grave Chill is also amazing for setting up ganks. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On April 27 2012 05:42 TheYango wrote: Whats wrong with that?I find him to be a very entertaining hero. You're also like the only person in the world whose most wanted hero in DotA 2 is Medusa. "When Medusa comes out, I'm going to spend an entire week last-hitting..." | ||
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