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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
April 26 2012 14:43 GMT
#9101
after having seen the new UI and the new item icons in the actual game, they are of much higher quality than the images suggest and i like them a lot. mjolnir looks much better than initially.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
oni_link
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 15:11:40
April 26 2012 15:10 GMT
#9102
On April 26 2012 21:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:48 oni_link wrote:
I would say the other way around, one point on drunken haze for lane harass because it gives 45% miss on lv 1 and disturbs lasthitting immensely. Skip the crit/dodge talent until your mana problems are done aka. agha done.

You have 182 base mana at level 1. You absolutely cannot support using Haze haphazardly like that.

Brawler's first rank is a pretty significant boost to your ability to trade in lane at no mana cost, particularly along with Clap.


All you do to me with this is make me consider to skill both on 1 and get stats on herolvl 8-10, but 10% crit/dodge seems so random. If I clap once and have magic stick, I will be able to clap a second time anyway if it's necessary. If I have full mana, I will haze the enemy on an approaching lasthit. I'm not saying burn your mana on every wave, but if it's full, I will haze the enemy.
?:O
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
April 26 2012 15:27 GMT
#9103
When is the new HUD going on the live server?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 26 2012 15:30 GMT
#9104
On April 26 2012 22:57 rabidch wrote:
soul ring costs 800 gold... am i missing something?

I misremembered it as 875. Funny.

I typed 200 gold when i typed that post the first time too. Then i thought I needed to correct myself lol.
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Font
Profile Joined February 2012
170 Posts
April 26 2012 15:31 GMT
#9105
On April 27 2012 00:10 oni_link wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:55 TheYango wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:48 oni_link wrote:
I would say the other way around, one point on drunken haze for lane harass because it gives 45% miss on lv 1 and disturbs lasthitting immensely. Skip the crit/dodge talent until your mana problems are done aka. agha done.

You have 182 base mana at level 1. You absolutely cannot support using Haze haphazardly like that.

Brawler's first rank is a pretty significant boost to your ability to trade in lane at no mana cost, particularly along with Clap.


All you do to me with this is make me consider to skill both on 1 and get stats on herolvl 8-10, but 10% crit/dodge seems so random. If I clap once and have magic stick, I will be able to clap a second time anyway if it's necessary. If I have full mana, I will haze the enemy on an approaching lasthit. I'm not saying burn your mana on every wave, but if it's full, I will haze the enemy.


why not just use haze until you only have mana for clap?
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 26 2012 15:36 GMT
#9106
On April 27 2012 00:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
When is the new HUD going on the live server?


Test client Wednesday, main client Thursday.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
April 26 2012 15:50 GMT
#9107
On April 27 2012 00:36 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 00:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
When is the new HUD going on the live server?


Test client Wednesday, main client Thursday.


So today?
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
April 26 2012 16:00 GMT
#9108
thursday night US, so early morning friday eu, like every patch pretty much
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
April 26 2012 16:16 GMT
#9109
Does anyone know of good vod's / match #'s with juggernaut? I'd like to see how (or if) he's played in high level games.
it's my first day
oni_link
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 16:35:11
April 26 2012 16:33 GMT
#9110
On April 27 2012 00:31 Font wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 00:10 oni_link wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:55 TheYango wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:48 oni_link wrote:
I would say the other way around, one point on drunken haze for lane harass because it gives 45% miss on lv 1 and disturbs lasthitting immensely. Skip the crit/dodge talent until your mana problems are done aka. agha done.

You have 182 base mana at level 1. You absolutely cannot support using Haze haphazardly like that.

Brawler's first rank is a pretty significant boost to your ability to trade in lane at no mana cost, particularly along with Clap.


All you do to me with this is make me consider to skill both on 1 and get stats on herolvl 8-10, but 10% crit/dodge seems so random. If I clap once and have magic stick, I will be able to clap a second time anyway if it's necessary. If I have full mana, I will haze the enemy on an approaching lasthit. I'm not saying burn your mana on every wave, but if it's full, I will haze the enemy.


why not just use haze until you only have mana for clap?

it depends on your magic stick charges,also it comes in handy to throw another haze in fights


On April 27 2012 01:16 myopia wrote:
Does anyone know of good vod's / match #'s with juggernaut? I'd like to see how (or if) he's played in high level games.

pretty much mTw since their reform plays jugger beastmaster often times(not on lane,but they want this particular setup)
?:O
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 16:47:06
April 26 2012 16:36 GMT
#9111
Just won a 4 vs 5 as Vengeful Spirit. Our Brewmaster left the game at the beginning because Storm Spirit " stole " a kill from him. It was one of the most epic games i've ever played on Dota. Oh my god I still have the chills...

edit: What starting items do you suggest me for Invoker ? Should I max first Quas, Exort or Wex ?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 26 2012 16:39 GMT
#9112
On April 26 2012 21:34 Doraemon wrote:
do you guys prefer legacy or qwer? i was tempted to switch to qwer but left it as legacy, it looks like QWER is more efficient? hmm


Hotkeys are a matter of muscle memory. If you've always played legacy hotkeys then you're used to it and it'll be a pain to switch. After a week or two QWER will become second nature, but it isn't worth the time investment unless you are having problems hitting all the keys.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
April 26 2012 16:45 GMT
#9113
On April 27 2012 01:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:34 Doraemon wrote:
do you guys prefer legacy or qwer? i was tempted to switch to qwer but left it as legacy, it looks like QWER is more efficient? hmm


Hotkeys are a matter of muscle memory. If you've always played legacy hotkeys then you're used to it and it'll be a pain to switch. After a week or two QWER will become second nature, but it isn't worth the time investment unless you are having problems hitting all the keys.


For me it sucks having control groups on F1, F2 O_o but I have no idea where to put them instead.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
April 26 2012 17:00 GMT
#9114
On April 27 2012 01:16 myopia wrote:
Does anyone know of good vod's / match #'s with juggernaut? I'd like to see how (or if) he's played in high level games.


Here's a chinese player (LGD.ddc) using Juggernaut in DotA 2: 10079099

He's really not a competitive pick. Practically no replays from sgamer (http://dota.sgamer.com/tag/14917121615517390108.html) for recent tournament matches.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
April 26 2012 17:11 GMT
#9115
On April 27 2012 02:00 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 01:16 myopia wrote:
Does anyone know of good vod's / match #'s with juggernaut? I'd like to see how (or if) he's played in high level games.


Here's a chinese player (LGD.ddc) using Juggernaut in DotA 2: 10079099

He's really not a competitive pick. Practically no replays from sgamer (http://dota.sgamer.com/tag/14917121615517390108.html) for recent tournament matches.


Na'Vi picked jugg as part of a push strat with enchantress and witch doctor and took a tier 2 tower 3 or 4 minutes into the game.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 26 2012 17:13 GMT
#9116
smoke+nuetral getting nerfed prob
High Risk Low Reward
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 26 2012 17:20 GMT
#9117
On April 27 2012 02:13 Spicy_Curry wrote:
smoke+nuetral getting nerfed prob

Hardly call that a "nerf" when it's not intended functionality to begin with.

It's simply one of many ways in which neutral AI doesn't work the way it's supposed to yet.
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 26 2012 17:21 GMT
#9118
On April 27 2012 02:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 02:13 Spicy_Curry wrote:
smoke+nuetral getting nerfed prob

Hardly call that a "nerf" when it's not intended functionality to begin with.

It's simply one of many ways in which neutral AI doesn't work the way it's supposed to yet.


what's this smoke+neutral thing?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 26 2012 17:22 GMT
#9119
On April 27 2012 02:21 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 02:20 TheYango wrote:
On April 27 2012 02:13 Spicy_Curry wrote:
smoke+nuetral getting nerfed prob

Hardly call that a "nerf" when it's not intended functionality to begin with.

It's simply one of many ways in which neutral AI doesn't work the way it's supposed to yet.


what's this smoke+neutral thing?

You can cast an Ion shell on yourself as Dark Seer, Smoke up(going invisbile) and kill large amounts of stacked creeps while not recieving any damage at all since smoke does not trigger on Neutrals.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 26 2012 17:25 GMT
#9120
you could do it with storm, DS, yunero, and many more AoE spells heroes.
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