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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On December 17 2013 00:45 Comeh wrote: Now that I understand the game and perspective in this game, yeah I think its working as intended. #practicedtwodaysbeforethelan #inphinitygotknockedoutbeforeus #whatevermade$120fromsecondplace if that was a normal shackle ill eat my shorts | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8280 Posts
On December 17 2013 01:39 TheKefka wrote: if that was a normal shackle ill eat my shorts Good news is you don't have to eat your shorts, that shackle boomeranged 45 degrees to hit a tree. This is a problem with wr and a lot of players in the proscene have risen concern about it. Sometimes it seems to be incapable of shackling when the guy is surrounded by trees, and other times it just boomerangs to hit a tree in the opposite direction. edit: if anyone is wondering: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/96uIWat.png) left is start of throw, right is the shackle angle when it hits. | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
OLIOLIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
"#bubba!" from bubbagump shrimp story from the movie Forrest Gump | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 17 2013 01:39 TheKefka wrote: if that was a normal shackle ill eat my shorts Maybe not a normal shackle, but the shackle does make sense. The angle it is traversing at at the very last second pretty much lines up perfectly with the tree. Pure luck, but legit. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 17 2013 02:00 Sn0_Man wrote: According to a PlayDota staff member shackle is supposed to calculate based on where the WR was when she threw it (and presumably the location of the hero when it hits.). Perhaps it checks where windrunner is facing at some certain distance the shackle is from the enemy target and calculates it there? I'm curious behind the mechanic - always figured it had more to do with the angle of the shackle midair. | ||
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epok
United States117 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8280 Posts
On December 17 2013 02:02 Comeh wrote: Perhaps it checks where windrunner is facing at some certain distance the shackle is from the enemy target and calculates it there? I'm curious behind the mechanic - always figured it had more to do with the angle of the shackle midair. You're giving valve too much credit here. its just bugged as shit. The way its suppose to work is the angle of the start vs the angle of the target when it hits vs the angle of something behind it. It does have a cone shape rather than a true straight line, but its not suppose to shackle 90 degrees to the left some of the times, and then not shackle directly behind other times. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I mean, the dota engine does funny shit. Does anybody remember that 80-mile lasso that somebody did to sing_sing a while ago? Sing got grabbed from about half a screen away rofl. Also stuff like 1000+ range melee attacks etc. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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NotYango
United States719 Posts
seeing as this has been a hotly debated topic at several point in the past. Currently the only relevant note on the KBL is that the tree angle for Shackleshot is about 5 degrees too wide because it uses the same angle as the hero check, rather than being about 5 degrees narrower like it's supposed to be. @Excludos, why did you even provide the "before shot" picture if you were going to misleadingly draw the angle from where WR is when the shackle latches. If you use WR's starting position to measure the angle, that shackle seems totally fine. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 17 2013 02:24 NotYango wrote: If there was something really functionally wrong with the Shackleshot angle, it would have long been reported on the KBL, seeing as this has been a hotly debated topic at several point in the past. Currently the only relevant note on the KBL is that the tree angle for Shackleshot is about 5 degrees too wide because it uses the same angle as the hero check, rather than being about 5 degrees narrower like it's supposed to be. You STILL haven't made your 20k? Damn get on that. But yeah, it seems fine to me. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
http://esportsexpress.com/2013/12/icefrogs-gmail-hacked/ Funny ^^. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/rr35x.png) Here is how it looks when we use windrunners "throw point" and the center of the trees collision circle, more or less. If anything is unclear I can provide more in depth explanation. | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
Some quality satire in there. | ||
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