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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On December 16 2013 06:07 TheKefka wrote:
Personally I think vlads on legion is pretty dope.The extra mana regen is just what she needs and all the other stats and aura is good as well,I see no reason not to get it honestly.
The problem is, when would you buy it? First item? Definitely not. After blink? I think you need some hp or damage at that point, probably bkb, but not Vlads. Later than that, you probably start being concerned about inventory slots and if your team really needs it a support might already have enough gold for it.
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Mana's also not really a problem for that hero unless you're in lane and maxing Nuke+Heal--in which case Drums have better effectiveness at that early timing.
With Passive+Heal out of the jungle, your mana usage is not that high. I wouldn't call the Basi regen "just what she needs" at all.
An item that's all aura stats and pushing power doesn't really fit the mold of an early gank hero that actually has a hard time dealing with early 5-man before she gets the snowball rolling.
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idk,I usually find that you blow your entire mana pool in a skirmish and than you either need to back or sit in the jungle low on mana.With mana ring I just wonder around and never base :D
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Or you send a Clarity or two, which basically top you up entirely given your low base mana.
You're buying a 2k gold item to solve a problem that naturally goes away with levels and which a 50 gold item every few minutes solves early.
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On December 16 2013 06:09 NotYango wrote:
xiao8/Yao are weird given how they've swapped roles to pretty mediocre success, and neither of them are really the whole package.
Yao's laning fundamentals are much better than xiao8's but his gank sense and overall feel for the tempo of the game are poorer. He will tend toward fairly passive, farmy mids and play in a way that has fairly limited game impact until the pushing/teamfighting stage of the game, which ultimately is not really an acceptable way to play mid in either this version or in 6.78. He's been a consistent player through the year, but he's also been consistent in this glaring flaw which puts him out of the running in my mind for best mid player of the year.
Xiao8's gank execution and direction of the game is fantastic, but his fundamentals on lane are really sloppy. It's too common for him to get solo killed or die to obvious ganks, even though he is much better at playing from behind than Yao is.
You are really a Yango antipode.
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Yea I get it,it's just a convenient solution for me I guess.She kinda feels like doom with mana tho and I get ring on him pretty much always so that's why i thought it's decent.
On December 16 2013 06:18 NotYango wrote:
Or you send a Clarity or two, which basically top you up entirely given your low base mana.
You're buying a 2k gold item to solve a problem that naturally goes away with levels and which a 50 gold item every few minutes solves early.
I'm not buying a 2 k gold item for mana regen....I'm buying a mana ring that's 500 gold and the 2k gold item is a very nice build up for it along the way,which someone always "needs" to get anyway
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On December 16 2013 06:21 TheKefka wrote:
Yea I get it,it's just a convenient solution for me I guess.She kinda feels like doom with mana tho and I get ring on him pretty much always so that's why i thought it's decent.
How is Doom even comparable. Doom has 4 active skills + gets additional skills from creeps and has to use his skills to jungle. LC has 3 active skills, doesn't need to us any of them to jungle after like level 5 (3 if you're lucky with creeps, but it's kind of slow to do Centaurs still), and you don't even start leveling the most expensive one in the jungle till level 10.
Doom's mana demand is WAY higher.
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You don't use dooms active skills in the jungle either....you spam your Q and W(tornado being the big one when you get it I guess) here and there and that's pretty much it,but you still need some form of regen,as in the ring or claritys.Same as with her,you spam your W on her to keep you going at "sketchy camps" and it depletes your mana,same as with later on fighting.You come out of the fight without mana and instead of backing you go to your jungle or w/e and get it back fairly quickly.That was my whole point.
And yea dooms demand is way high later on but that's why you get mana items on him and not on LC.
could try out urn as well tho
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Except you're still not going to delay your Blink by 500 gold to get a Basi regardless. And post-Blink, you're level 7+ anyway, so none of the "sketchy" camps are actually hard enough anymore to need to use Press the Attack.
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fair enough I was just making a suggestion ^^
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What are the odds of having your rating available through dotabuff? People that don't want it shared can always uncheck the privacy thing.
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On December 16 2013 06:57 AndyJay wrote:
What are the odds of having your rating available through dotabuff? People that don't want it shared can always uncheck the privacy thing.
None, rating isn't fetchable publicly. DB would have to evaluate MMR themselves, but since no one knows the equation used, they can only speculate.
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On December 16 2013 06:39 TheKefka wrote:
fair enough I was just making a suggestion ^^
another difference that makes basi much better on doom than legion is just the fact that dooms armor stat is so bad that the item serves more than one purpose, where LCs armor stat isn't terrible so she's not as desperate for the item.
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bottle's almost core on LC so i have no idea why u guys are arguing about other silly items for mana.
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why does LC have mana issues? aren't you supposed to be maxing the passive and W anyway when you come out of the jungle after blink?
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On December 16 2013 07:15 trinxified wrote:
why does LC have mana issues? aren't you supposed to be maxing the passive and W anyway when you come out of the jungle after blink?
u want atleast 1 in Q, and u dont want to go back to base every time u duel a guy or fight.... also u kinda want to spam w on urself in jungle.
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On December 16 2013 05:42 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 05:40 AwfuL_ wrote:On December 16 2013 05:31 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On December 16 2013 05:17 AwfuL_ wrote:
Definitely a though vote.
Meanwhile Loda having no impact ohmygosh he's literally the worst carry guys I hope it's sarcasm, right? Loda is the no-brainer vote. I'm not sure what you mean with that (Loda is the vote for people with no brain or the obvious vote) But yes it was sarcasm related to last page Latter, of course. People tend to exaggerate with TC bashing, he carried old Liquid pretty hard, I remember that. Additionally, I'll be extremely disappointed if the "Most Improved Team" award won't be handled to Fnatic.
It will be speed, they won a big one, MLG. Big storyline. ezpz speedgaming
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I have a question:
I just got a Starladder 7 ticket, I know it's an older tournament, but can I still activate it and watch games? Thanks.
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On December 16 2013 07:25 ChunderBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 07:15 trinxified wrote:
why does LC have mana issues? aren't you supposed to be maxing the passive and W anyway when you come out of the jungle after blink? u want atleast 1 in Q, and u dont want to go back to base every time u duel a guy or fight.... also u kinda want to spam w on urself in jungle.
i dont think you really need q at all, esp if youre rushing blink from the jungle.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
I've played few games of LC and I have to say I'm disappointed. Sure LC can snowball as fuck but am I the only one that hates her ult? Duel (meant 1v1) should really be 1v1, not that Your allies and opponents can rape the shit out of You when u use that ult, meh :\
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