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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
December 10 2013 21:52 GMT
#90081
On December 11 2013 06:50 Fatalize wrote:
- Replicate cooldown decreased from 80 to 60/40/20
- Replicate can now create multiple illusions instead of only one
- Replicate damage increased from 50% to 50%/75%/100%


That would be RIDICULOUSLY OP

Hah, morphling would be the new dark seer except he can do physical damage as well. Th
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 21:58:52
December 10 2013 21:55 GMT
#90082
@Sn0_Man, thanks for clarifying things.

I am greately pleased my favorite spider is going to return to pro meta, that's all I know.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 10 2013 21:56 GMT
#90083
If anything the morphling changes confirm that its not real.
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
December 10 2013 21:58 GMT
#90084
@Comeh, it's worth sharing anyway.

I extremely enjoyed Sven's change for example.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 21:59:54
December 10 2013 21:58 GMT
#90085
Rofl that trolling from valve, glad that it wont be greeveling again phew.

+ Show Spoiler +
Or IS IT
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 22:01:03
December 10 2013 21:59 GMT
#90086
On December 11 2013 06:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well to be fair, if one assumes that Icefrog spent a lot of time working on Dota 2 things that are now mostly complete, he would now have time to try somewhat more outlandish changes to heroes and code them properly in the WC3 engine as well. The changes to Huskar/Broodmother demonstrate that he isn't afraid to try that stuff, and I don't think it's impossible for him to have decided that "ramping up" the hero uniqueness is in the best interest of Dota at large.

Why is Huskar there, lol. Nothing he's done with Huskar is strange or difficult.

EDIT: Broodmother changes weren't hard either.

From a WC3 engine perspective, the weirdest changes were probably NS and Slark/new smoke (and those aren't undoable, just require weird workarounds).
yango pls
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
December 10 2013 21:59 GMT
#90087
Morphling
- Cast point decreased from 0.25 to 0

Totally legit.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 10 2013 22:00 GMT
#90088
This is obviously fake. Why even talk about it
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 10 2013 22:01 GMT
#90089
On December 11 2013 07:00 Shaella wrote:
This is obviously fake. Why even talk about it

This is the closest I'll ever get.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 22:01:56
December 10 2013 22:01 GMT
#90090
The guy even tried to put Wraith king instead of Skeleton King to make it sound more like "inside infos"
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 10 2013 22:04 GMT
#90091
This patch notes is less crazy than 6.79. Noone would believe that shit was legit.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 10 2013 22:06 GMT
#90092
Morphling is boring though
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 10 2013 22:57 GMT
#90093
I have never seen a leaked changelog that ended up being anywhere close to real. I doubt this one is.
super gg
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 10 2013 23:02 GMT
#90094
On December 11 2013 06:58 BurningSera wrote:
Rofl that trolling from valve, glad that it wont be greeveling again phew.

+ Show Spoiler +
Or IS IT


Incepted
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
December 10 2013 23:08 GMT
#90095
On December 11 2013 07:57 cecek wrote:
I have never seen a leaked changelog that ended up being anywhere close to real. I doubt this one is.


Yeah, except you know, the ones that turn out to be real. Dota players typically put the current balance on a massive pedestal and think small things will break the game, obviously if pudge could get blink he would be first pick/ban every tourny right?

I'm not saying these notes are right but there's a big difference between theorycrafting changes and testing changes, and in small tests a lot of wacky stuff gets tested out even if it is seemingly broken.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 10 2013 23:11 GMT
#90096
heres my fake changelog -

Morphling
-Waveform reworked and has been renamed to Tsunami. Now has the width identical to Keeper of the Light's Illuminate during travel.
-Adaptive Strike no longer knocks the target back but now deals the same damage and stun to units within a 175 radius around the targeted unit.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 10 2013 23:13 GMT
#90097
On December 11 2013 08:08 AndyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 07:57 cecek wrote:
I have never seen a leaked changelog that ended up being anywhere close to real. I doubt this one is.


Yeah, except you know, the ones that turn out to be real. Dota players typically put the current balance on a massive pedestal and think small things will break the game, obviously if pudge could get blink he would be first pick/ban every tourny right?

I'm not saying these notes are right but there's a big difference between theorycrafting changes and testing changes, and in small tests a lot of wacky stuff gets tested out even if it is seemingly broken.

Which one turned out real?? I've read at 6 "leaked" DotA changelogs over the time I've been following dota and none of the changes in the fake changelogs had anything remotely similar to what was in the real thing.

Maybe I missed some, tho.
super gg
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 10 2013 23:14 GMT
#90098
what a cruel king he would be to unleash another round of greevilings on us
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
December 10 2013 23:22 GMT
#90099
You know, those patch notes looks very real. Yes, morph one sounds on paper really stupid strong, but so has a lot of changes that ended up fine. Especially the fact that all replicas are destroyed when you morph to it makes it so you have can't just jump into a fight and instantly have 5 replicas ready, you have to start storing them up over time. It will make him into a ridiculously strong pusher tho.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 10 2013 23:27 GMT
#90100
okay so i read through the thing and some of these changes seem very un-Icefrog like.
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