EPTThe main advantages for Phase in general are better laning (which QoP doesn't need since she wins most matchups anyway) and mobility, for which QoP already has Blink for. Treads on the other hand are pretty good because it's your only early source of HP when you go for a fast Orchids (as is common), gives you some nice attack speed, and allows you to Tread-switch when using Bottle.
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
The main advantages for Phase in general are better laning (which QoP doesn't need since she wins most matchups anyway) and mobility, for which QoP already has Blink for. Treads on the other hand are pretty good because it's your only early source of HP when you go for a fast Orchids (as is common), gives you some nice attack speed, and allows you to Tread-switch when using Bottle. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
welcome to eu West dota in approx 3 months | ||
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harodihg
Japan1344 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
err i meant, nottarge | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
 Time to super tryhard, I guess.You get treads, because you need bottle on qop. Bottle and Treads is a match made in heaven. <3 | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
On December 07 2013 17:18 NotYango wrote: Pubs are still pubs. Having a number go up when you win does't make it not a pub. Even Valve is expecting the distribution to change. Sure, they're still pubs, but that doesn't mean they're not more competitive. | ||
dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:07 Staboteur wrote: Even Valve is expecting the distribution to change. Sure, they're still pubs, but that doesn't mean they're not more competitive. It's only as competitive as players make it. People will still fuck around in it just as much as they do now. | ||
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toemn
Germany915 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:32 dfs wrote: It's only as competitive as players make it. People will still fuck around in it just as much as they do now. This will be sorted out eventually, just like in League. If you fuck up games in ranked by building stupid stuff or playing stupid heroes you will get reported into oblivion. I only played Gold/Lower Plat in League but usually this stuff happens very rarely. People get very angry when this happens. | ||
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:38 toemn wrote: This will be sorted out eventually, just like in League. If you fuck up games in ranked by building stupid stuff or playing stupid heroes you will get reported into oblivion. I only played Gold/Lower Plat in League but usually this stuff happens very rarely. People get very angry when this happens. Except this is not League and you can win by playing something other than selected few heroes and items. Also, reporting for "not playing normally/serious" does a total amount of absolutely nothing. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
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toemn
Germany915 Posts
On December 07 2013 19:45 dfs wrote: Except this is not League and you can win by playing something other than selected few heroes and items. Also, reporting for "not playing normally/serious" does a total amount of absolutely nothing. That's obvious. But you said "People will still fuck around in it just as much as they do now". Since history told us that both the League and Dota community are not different at all I expect the Dota community to react exactly the same as League people when it comes to their precious ranking. The ladder will be more toxic and I can guarantee you that people will report and flame if you last pick Drow or go Dagon first with Riki because "for the lulz". And why should reports don't matter? If 4 teammates report you for intentional feeding you will land in LPQ and be excluded from ranking until you play five(!) games in LPQ. I doubt you can get away with trollpicks in ranked mode but I could be wrong maybe the Dota community is more mature, lol. | ||
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:07 njt7 wrote: Word! A first item boots solo roaming lesh totally crushed all of our lanes at the same time the other day. I was impressed. He proceeded with buying midas into hex to secure the lategame. I was impressed. Counter-midas all day pl0x | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On December 07 2013 23:10 Zealos wrote: I just lost a game because I was pushed into unpathable terrain at level one by Earth Spirit. Wtf am I meant to do!? Ask volvo to fix that hero. Its got a really step learning curve, hence the low win rate, but it is so absurdly strong once you learn how to play it. It raises a interesting question on balance, how do you balance a hero that is super weak at low skill level but absurdly strong at high level play. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On December 07 2013 23:13 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ask volvo to fix that hero. Its got a really step learning curve, hence the low win rate, but it is so absurdly strong once you learn how to play it. It raises a interesting question on balance, how do you balance a hero that is super weak at low skill level but absurdly strong at high level play. You should always balance around the highest level of play. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On December 07 2013 23:13 Jaaaaasper wrote: Ask volvo to fix that hero. Its got a really step learning curve, hence the low win rate, but it is so absurdly strong once you learn how to play it. It raises a interesting question on balance, how do you balance a hero that is super weak at low skill level but absurdly strong at high level play. I mean, is it meant to be able to do it? I was not able to get any levels, and there was no way out | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On December 07 2013 23:15 Zealos wrote: I mean, is it meant to be able to do it? I was not able to get any levels, and there was no way out Its meant to be hard but possible. The whole hero is based around hard to land but high impact skills, which means kicking you onto unpathable is meant to be possible, although that will given the pudge or venge treatment of letting you move from unpathable if you react in time. Until then just gotta hope someone on your team picks that hero. | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On December 07 2013 23:37 Jaaaaasper wrote: Its meant to be hard but possible. The whole hero is based around hard to land but high impact skills, which means kicking you onto unpathable is meant to be possible, although that will given the pudge or venge treatment of letting you move from unpathable if you react in time. Until then just gotta hope someone on your team picks that hero. Yeah, I kinda hoped it would be unpathable, but no. I just took the abandon lol, I woulda been level one till like 15 mins in. | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
It's not an unrecoverable position, really. | ||
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