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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 20:27:48
April 23 2012 20:27 GMT
#8781
On April 24 2012 05:21 NB wrote:
actually heroes are known in different names depend on what language community you are playing in. Currently you are in the english one, they call heroes differently in russian as well as in chinese and SEA langs. There are slangs for each heroes in the hardcore community as well.

Of course. But some heroes have secondary names that all know, like Yaphets and bambi
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 23 2012 20:29 GMT
#8782
On April 24 2012 05:27 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:21 NB wrote:
actually heroes are known in different names depend on what language community you are playing in. Currently you are in the english one, they call heroes differently in russian as well as in chinese and SEA langs. There are slangs for each heroes in the hardcore community as well.

Of course. But some heroes have secondary names that all know, like Yaphets and bambi

Fuzzy Wuzzy, Trogdor, Merlini, -qwerty, Vasiliy Zajcev, wicked ball, gollum and many more
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
April 23 2012 20:43 GMT
#8783
Wait who's -qwerty?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 23 2012 20:46 GMT
#8784
On April 24 2012 05:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Wait who's -qwerty?

"Spectre's alternate/fun name "Qwerty-" was given to spectre for remembering a Legendary Dota player Zaven "Qwerty" Terminasov, who passed away December 5, 2010."
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 21:34:58
April 23 2012 21:32 GMT
#8785
On April 24 2012 05:17 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:06 Qbek wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:56 Unleashing wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:35 konadora wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:20 Font wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:48 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:32 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:20 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:03 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:26 Durak wrote:
[quote]
Dispersion is obviously a significant ability but it wasn't the reason they were losing fights. It only does the full 22% in a 300 radius, which is very small, and on 1500hp that's only 300dmg.

I think he was generally trying to get Enchantress first but Shadow Demon's disruption would force him to switch targets. The thing is, if he doesn't focus down Spectre then Spectre is going to deal a ton of damage. Spectre went vanguard, radiance, then diffusal so he had a lot of damage and only ~1500hp for the majority of the game. Morphling was trying to focus him down during the chain stuns of Beastmaster, Earthshaker, and Crystal Maiden so that they could then roll the fight but mTw played really well.



it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage.


...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl



I even checked playdota cause I couldn't remember full dispersion mechanics, they never mentioned it.

Notes
• Damage type: pure
• Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage.
• Illusions will not benefit from this ability.
• Full damage is dealt in a 300 AoE around Spectre.
• The damage dealt decreases linearly from a 300 distance to a 1000 distance from Spectre.
• Will not disable Kelen's Dagger of Escape, Heart of Tarrasque and Tranquil Boots.




I can't tell if you still don't understand basic math or not, so I'll explain:

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 1000 damage.
Spectre instantly dies while dispersing 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP. No more, no less.

or

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 333.333.... damage.
Spectre dies in three hits while dispersing 73.333... damage three times, or 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP.



I dont think you get how it works

dis·perse/disˈpərs/
Verb:
Distribute or spread over a wide area.
Adjective:
Denoting a phase dispersed in another phase, as in a colloid.
Synonyms:
dissipate - dispel - disband - spread - diffuse


spectre dispels 22% damage... meaning he doesnt take it

how do you know this but not know who mangix is

Just don't call spectre mercurial and it's cool. Hahaha.

I'm feeling like droping some random "lol" names like Moghul Khan, Alleria, Kelthu Zad, Anub'Arak, Anub'Seran, Azgalor and maybe Shendelzare too :D

Let's go for some of the really odd ones:
Azgalor, Jah'rakal, Lesale, Ish'kafel, Rotund'jere, Aiushtha
God i feel like such a nerd for knowing them all by heart by now.


Axe, Windrunner, Lich, Nerub Assassin, Nerub Weaver, Pitlord

Pitlord, Troll, Venomancer, Dark Seer, Necrolyte, Enchantress.

It's okay, I remembered the associated heroes so we're the same.

also, what does it say about me if I laughed when someone pointed out 'Azgalor = Asses Galore'?

not sure if this has been mentioned but

Sing mention in his stream that Dement, RExi, Trixi + Angel + Calculus will form a new team..


so I'm guessing mouz will reform with Bamboe, Sing, Fire, Twista + unknown last.
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 23 2012 21:42 GMT
#8786
On April 24 2012 06:32 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:17 Unleashing wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:06 Qbek wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:56 Unleashing wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:35 konadora wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:20 Font wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:48 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:32 crms wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:20 paper wrote:
On April 24 2012 03:03 crms wrote:
[quote]


it's 22% of damage taken in a 1000AOE (closer more, further less) basically anyone in the immediate fight. Morphling was hitting like a truck so ~22% of morphlings damage not only hitting himself (his auto attack is 350 which is very close to the max 22% range) but all of his team is extremely significant. I'm not sure why you're calculating spectre's HP for the damage.


...because spectre can only disperse so much damage, i.e. a percentage of her max hp? rofl



I even checked playdota cause I couldn't remember full dispersion mechanics, they never mentioned it.

Notes
• Damage type: pure
• Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage.
• Illusions will not benefit from this ability.
• Full damage is dealt in a 300 AoE around Spectre.
• The damage dealt decreases linearly from a 300 distance to a 1000 distance from Spectre.
• Will not disable Kelen's Dagger of Escape, Heart of Tarrasque and Tranquil Boots.




I can't tell if you still don't understand basic math or not, so I'll explain:

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 1000 damage.
Spectre instantly dies while dispersing 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP. No more, no less.

or

Spectre has 1000 HP.
Morphling hits for 333.333.... damage.
Spectre dies in three hits while dispersing 73.333... damage three times, or 220 damage, or 22% of her max HP.



I dont think you get how it works

dis·perse/disˈpərs/
Verb:
Distribute or spread over a wide area.
Adjective:
Denoting a phase dispersed in another phase, as in a colloid.
Synonyms:
dissipate - dispel - disband - spread - diffuse


spectre dispels 22% damage... meaning he doesnt take it

how do you know this but not know who mangix is

Just don't call spectre mercurial and it's cool. Hahaha.

I'm feeling like droping some random "lol" names like Moghul Khan, Alleria, Kelthu Zad, Anub'Arak, Anub'Seran, Azgalor and maybe Shendelzare too :D

Let's go for some of the really odd ones:
Azgalor, Jah'rakal, Lesale, Ish'kafel, Rotund'jere, Aiushtha
God i feel like such a nerd for knowing them all by heart by now.


Axe, Windrunner, Lich, Nerub Assassin, Nerub Weaver, Pitlord

Pitlord, Troll, Venomancer, Dark Seer, Necrolyte, Enchantress.

It's okay, I remembered the associated heroes so we're the same.

also, what does it say about me if I laughed when someone pointed out 'Azgalor = Asses Galore'?

not sure if this has been mentioned but

Show nested quote +
Sing mention in his stream that Dement, RExi, Trixi + Angel + Calculus will form a new team..


so I'm guessing mouz will reform with Bamboe, Sing, Fire, Twista + unknown last.

i think its KuroKy because the international 2 on the way.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 23 2012 22:05 GMT
#8787
lol looks at gosugamer team result with kuroky int heir line up back in the international1 -_-... I hope mouz wont be like that
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 23 2012 22:19 GMT
#8788
I thought Kuroky stated he will not settle for anything less then a top tier team.
WriterXiao8~~
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 22:34:26
April 23 2012 22:23 GMT
#8789
On April 24 2012 07:05 NB wrote:
lol looks at gosugamer team result with kuroky int heir line up back in the international1 -_-... I hope mouz wont be like that

comparing to old mouz dota 2 rosters, this roster is better than every single one.

but still not good as GG because of fire/twista


On April 24 2012 07:19 Kipsate wrote:
I thought Kuroky stated he will not settle for anything less then a top tier team.

they did beat CLG/Quantic and won a tournament with KuroKy, i think its good enough for being top tier eu team.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
April 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#8790

they did beat CLG/Quantic and won a tournament with KuroKy, i think its good enough for being top tier eu team.


I think he just had an excuse for not getting any team offers at the time to be honest, no one actually thought he would turn down a real team if they offered him a position. I mean he had his moment in the sun but to be honest he has yet to prove he himself is top teir material in dota 2 anyway. Obviously he will be competitive but at the level he thinks who knows.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 23 2012 22:45 GMT
#8791
On April 24 2012 05:46 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Wait who's -qwerty?

"Spectre's alternate/fun name "Qwerty-" was given to spectre for remembering a Legendary Dota player Zaven "Qwerty" Terminasov, who passed away December 5, 2010."

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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 23 2012 23:09 GMT
#8792
Hoo, pugna ward ticks for each tick of morphling's morph, didn't knew that :O (if that makes sense :D)
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 23 2012 23:13 GMT
#8793
On April 24 2012 07:44 Esoterikk wrote:

Show nested quote +
they did beat CLG/Quantic and won a tournament with KuroKy, i think its good enough for being top tier eu team.


I think he just had an excuse for not getting any team offers at the time to be honest, no one actually thought he would turn down a real team if they offered him a position. I mean he had his moment in the sun but to be honest he has yet to prove he himself is top teir material in dota 2 anyway. Obviously he will be competitive but at the level he thinks who knows.

he was 19-1 against Quantic, 15-1 against CLG.

i think kuroky is still amazingly good and he can compete on "top tier".

"I am actually quite happy to play with KuroKy. That guy, he has some next level tactics. I've learned more in 4 days playing with KuroKy than in I've learned in my entire carrer with the other mouz-team." SingSing
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
April 23 2012 23:17 GMT
#8794
On April 24 2012 07:45 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:46 Qbek wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Wait who's -qwerty?

"Spectre's alternate/fun name "Qwerty-" was given to spectre for remembering a Legendary Dota player Zaven "Qwerty" Terminasov, who passed away December 5, 2010."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-oi0BrpXMs

Ahaha, dispersion pre nerf was pretty ridiculous.
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HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
April 23 2012 23:30 GMT
#8795
On April 24 2012 08:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 07:45 rabidch wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:46 Qbek wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Wait who's -qwerty?

"Spectre's alternate/fun name "Qwerty-" was given to spectre for remembering a Legendary Dota player Zaven "Qwerty" Terminasov, who passed away December 5, 2010."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-oi0BrpXMs

Ahaha, dispersion pre nerf was pretty ridiculous.

Wow, just wow.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 23 2012 23:35 GMT
#8796
On April 24 2012 07:19 Kipsate wrote:
I thought Kuroky stated he will not settle for anything less then a top tier team.


Yeah when he calls out that "there are no good teams except NaVi" and then pairs up with what might be considered a top 5 team but probably not in the top 3, thats just kinda funny.

Mouz said on their facebook that a Dota2 announcement would be coming soon so I'm sure this will be it, its good too for players like Bamboe who shouldn't have had to be paired with rexi/trixi etc. This new team with Kuroky is much stronger on paper.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 23 2012 23:35 GMT
#8797
The shockwave from the magnataur makes more damage to axe than to spectre >< xD
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 23 2012 23:45 GMT
#8798
On April 24 2012 07:45 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:46 Qbek wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Wait who's -qwerty?

"Spectre's alternate/fun name "Qwerty-" was given to spectre for remembering a Legendary Dota player Zaven "Qwerty" Terminasov, who passed away December 5, 2010."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-oi0BrpXMs


i remember i love to tower dive at around lvl5/6 vs those pussy players who thought hugging there is safe :>

my old spec build was 5wraiths+pt, who needs tp when you can fully utilize your ulti every minute!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
April 24 2012 00:09 GMT
#8799
I'm not the original author. This is a crosspost from reddit- all credit goes to Tharuler
  • Original reddit post
  • Dota 2 Stats Beta

Original reddit post content:

Hi guys,

After my previous post a few weeks ago, I'm glad to finally release the one and only Dota 2 Stats site to you!

The site offers the following features:
Match stats for every public matchmaking game
General playerstats for every player who has played atleast 1 matchmaking game
Aggregated herostats with most played heroes, winrates, etc
Personalized player statistics when you create an account
Amount of players in the beta, amount of matches played
Top 50 of players with most wins and most games played
...

Keep in mind the current site is still in beta. We will be adding more features in the coming days/weeks. Suggestions are welcome!

If you encounter any bugs or errors, please let me know!

I'll be answering any questions you guys might have in this thread.

tl;dr; http://stats.dota2.be

P.S.: Please don't crash my server!

Edit: Since my server couldn't really handle the load I applied a quick change: You now need to search for the exact nickname to match, rather than any part of the nickname. This should clear up most of the load going on right now.


Looks good so far. He was basically able to parse through the packages the client received, every time you request a match screen. I figure he then crawled through all possible match ID's.

You can log on via Steam Open ID and search for your user name.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 24 2012 00:23 GMT
#8800
On April 24 2012 08:35 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 07:19 Kipsate wrote:
I thought Kuroky stated he will not settle for anything less then a top tier team.


Yeah when he calls out that "there are no good teams except NaVi" and then pairs up with what might be considered a top 5 team but probably not in the top 3, thats just kinda funny.

Mouz said on their facebook that a Dota2 announcement would be coming soon so I'm sure this will be it, its good too for players like Bamboe who shouldn't have had to be paired with rexi/trixi etc. This new team with Kuroky is much stronger on paper.

I'd say they're the 3rd best team after Darer right now.
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