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On November 18 2013 03:06 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 02:54 Mataza wrote:
But an infinite(cooldown based) dispel would really fuck over a few heroes and not do much against all the rest.
Right now Abaddon is the only hero that has an universally useful dispel type skill: Aphotic Shield.
They had to change it so it doesn't remove Doom's Doom, because that was really bad. Well, that's not quite right. First is that Aphotic Shield is not a purge. It's triggered buff removal, so it's much stronger than a Purge-based item/skill would be because it removes a lot of things that Purge doesn't. Second is that Aphotic Shield removing Doom in DotA 1 was a bug that Icefrog couldn't really get around. He could block Aphotic Shield from being targeted on Doomed targets, but the reason you could remove Doom was because if Doom was placed on the target while Abaddon was in his cast animation, it wouldn't stop the cast.
Doom was patched to not be dispellable in dota1 about a year ago
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On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. 
There's a lot of heroes who are snowball / item dependent. Why do you find ember spirit to be an extreme?
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On November 18 2013 01:55 Animzor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Same as Tusk, should be removed.
What a stupid thing to say.
Sounds like "I don't like it so nobody else can enjoy it" to me.
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I think you missed the joke about tusk snowballing.
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On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass.
Certainly not to me, if i were to name which hero is a LoL hero i'd say Earth Spirit, not only does he have a starting passive, but also abilities with "bonus conditions" (if ability hits stone remnant, then it additionaly does this).
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On November 18 2013 05:55 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Certainly not to me, if i were to name which hero is a LoL hero i'd say Earth Spirit, not only does he have a starting passive, but also abilities with "bonus conditions" (if ability hits stone remnant, then it additionaly does this).
The only difference with a LoL hero beeing that he actually requires skill to play
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On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass.
I feel Ember spirit is one of those item dependant heroes who don't actually have to snowball all that hard. It costs a lot of cash to get two battlefurys on him, but once you do, it doesn't matter much if you're playing from behind, you suddenly become very powerful and with two battlefurys you're in a great spot to flashfarm. That's sort of the sweet thing with a hero who potentially can carry using battlefurys, even if you die several times, the parts to build a battlefury are not all that expensive by themselves so you're not completely shut down if you're ganked a few times.
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On November 18 2013 06:04 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 05:55 Kaniol wrote:On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Certainly not to me, if i were to name which hero is a LoL hero i'd say Earth Spirit, not only does he have a starting passive, but also abilities with "bonus conditions" (if ability hits stone remnant, then it additionaly does this). The only difference with a LoL hero beeing that he actually requires skill to play
You bash LoL! You so funny >.>
Thanks for reminding me why i still like Team Liquid's LoL community more even though i no longer play it.
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On November 18 2013 06:12 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 06:04 Fatalize wrote:On November 18 2013 05:55 Kaniol wrote:On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Certainly not to me, if i were to name which hero is a LoL hero i'd say Earth Spirit, not only does he have a starting passive, but also abilities with "bonus conditions" (if ability hits stone remnant, then it additionaly does this). The only difference with a LoL hero beeing that he actually requires skill to play You bash LoL! You so funny >.> Thanks for reminding me why i still like Team Liquid's LoL community more even though i no longer play it.
Because one person is representative for everyone here ^^. Thanks for reminding me why I like TL Dota community more.
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Technically speaking, one has to be a part of both communities to qualify for bashing. lol
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On November 18 2013 05:35 GentleDrill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 01:55 Animzor wrote:On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Same as Tusk, should be removed. What a stupid thing to say. Sounds like "I don't like it so nobody else can enjoy it" to me.
omg, i cannot believe someone fell for this, nice :D
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On November 18 2013 06:05 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. I feel Ember spirit is one of those item dependant heroes who don't actually have to snowball all that hard. It costs a lot of cash to get two battlefurys on him, but once you do, it doesn't matter much if you're playing from behind, you suddenly become very powerful and with two battlefurys you're in a great spot to flashfarm. That's sort of the sweet thing with a hero who potentially can carry using battlefurys, even if you die several times, the parts to build a battlefury are not all that expensive by themselves so you're not completely shut down if you're ganked a few times.
I suspect people will decide that the Battlefury build isn't that good except as a lategame transition eventually.
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2 Battlefuries?
Are you sure that you aren't playing Diretide?
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On November 18 2013 06:45 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 05:35 GentleDrill wrote:On November 18 2013 01:55 Animzor wrote:On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Same as Tusk, should be removed. What a stupid thing to say. Sounds like "I don't like it so nobody else can enjoy it" to me. omg, i cannot believe someone fell for this, nice :D
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Was that some kind of joke about Tusk's snowball or what?
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On November 18 2013 06:04 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 05:55 Kaniol wrote:On November 18 2013 01:48 Slomo wrote:Is it just me or is Ember Spirit a lot like a LoL hero? He his skillset is fun and stuff, but he has absolutly no use if he doesnt snowball HARD at the beginning. Completly dependant on items to make his skills work. I just cant find a way to play him against any composition aswell. Sad day, because he looks badass. Certainly not to me, if i were to name which hero is a LoL hero i'd say Earth Spirit, not only does he have a starting passive, but also abilities with "bonus conditions" (if ability hits stone remnant, then it additionaly does this). The only difference with a LoL hero beeing that he actually requires skill to play
And that he doesn't have a stupid LoL hero name like Mangix.
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On November 18 2013 06:51 Yoshi- wrote:
2 Battlefuries?
Are you sure that you aren't playing Diretide?
Multiple battlefuries is definitely legit on Ember Spirit. Even valve's recommended items has two additional battlefuries listed under extended items. :D
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Treant Protector's base damage is too low for proper carrying.
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On November 18 2013 06:53 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 06:51 Yoshi- wrote:
2 Battlefuries?
Are you sure that you aren't playing Diretide? Multiple battlefuries is definitely legit on Ember Spirit. Even valve's recommended items has two additional battlefuries listed under extended items. :D
I agree with Battlefury stacking, but default recommended item list is hardly justified. 
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On November 18 2013 06:53 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 06:51 Yoshi- wrote:
2 Battlefuries?
Are you sure that you aren't playing Diretide? Multiple battlefuries is definitely legit on Ember Spirit. Even valve's recommended items has two additional battlefuries listed under extended items. :D
And as we all know Valve recommended items are never wrong, like headdress first on LD or bfury for every melee hero.
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