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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On November 12 2013 13:25 rabidch wrote: void has mana issues? Was about to say the same thing... If you're having mana issues, that means you're using Time Walk way too much. Shouldn't be in a situation where you're doing this in the first place. Nonetheless, Orchid is overkill when you want to solve mana problems. Probably better to just Battle Fury, much better to get for mana regen. I find that item a bit bad though on Void and I prefer the Maelstrom/MoM route. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On November 12 2013 13:18 Dead9 wrote: that's why void usually gets bkb Did you not read the part about BKB-disabling disables? He has a very poor time dealing with the likes of Bane or Beastmaster; he can't fight Medusa or DP head-to-head as their ultimates go straight through BKB. On November 12 2013 13:25 rabidch wrote: void has mana issues? Yes. His Intelligence gain is terrible and makes post-lane farming a pain in the butt. One of the main justifications of the BF build is that it allows Void to hop from lane -> jungle -> lane without exhausting his mana for team fights. On November 12 2013 13:30 trinxified wrote: Was about to say the same thing... If you're having mana issues, that means you're using Time Walk way too much. Shouldn't be in a situation where you're doing this in the first place. Nonetheless, Orchid is overkill when you want to solve mana problems. Probably better to just Battle Fury, much better to get for mana regen. I find that item a bit bad though on Void and I prefer the Maelstrom/MoM route. I don't like the BF build either as it takes him way too long to become relevant. But basic Maelstrom builds don't give him mana regeneration either and once you exit the laning stage, you're stuck walking around and following creep lanes instead of flash farming. Ancient stacking is annoying too; Chain Lightning doesn't work. That's not the reason why I'm bringing this up (I'm not advocating getting Orchid before Butterfly or anything like that). | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
Actually looking at the most played list, I hardly ever see riki either despite him being #4 most played. I assume it's because most of those games are in the lower brackets where invisibility is invulnerability. | ||
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Adrian_mx
Mexico1880 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
I personally don't like MoM builds as they turn him into a glass cannon and competent teams can easily wreck him in team fights. It has decent uses as a jungling and ganking tool though. | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
On November 12 2013 14:01 Adrian_mx wrote: Lone Druid is sooooo hard to freaking learn jeeeeez are you trying to be sarcastic please use the appropriate punctuation if you are | ||
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JumboJohnson
537 Posts
On November 12 2013 14:02 CosmicSpiral wrote: Aquila doesn't help him when he needs it, the mana regeneration is far too small. Also the aura needlessly pushes the lane. I personally don't like MoM builds as they turn him into a glass cannon and competent teams can easily wreck him in team fights. It has decent uses as a jungling and ganking tool though. You know you can turn the aura off right? | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3473 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On November 12 2013 14:18 Nilrem wrote: Well I had a weird bug. I spawned as meepo (had agh scepter and ult was maxed) and when I appeared, only one meepo spawned. After 2 seconds, the rest spawned and the sound of spawning went off again. I wanted to charge out and realized my guy was alone. I think there was a bug with the bonus respwan time after buying back, that the bonus time only applied to the clones and not the main hero, or some shit like that. I thought they fixed it soon after it being discovered tho, did this happen recently? | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
 On November 12 2013 14:13 vndestiny wrote: You're trying to play a Void as an AM. Nor gonna happen bro. No, that's what the BF build tries to do. On November 12 2013 14:16 trinxified wrote: Necrobook comes to mind again haha. Moves within chrono too. Necrobook build is pretty good as a midgame pushing strategy and the INT gain is really helpful. But...well, you're getting a roundabout damage item that only synergizes with Chrono. Doesn't account for his Time Lock or the multitudes of other issues. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On November 12 2013 14:21 cecek wrote: I think there was a bug with the bonus respwan time after buying back, that the bonus time only applied to the clones and not the main hero, or some shit like that. I thought they fixed it soon after it being discovered tho, did this happen recently? About.... five minutes ago lol. And I did buyback before I died again so that probably was the issue). | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
On November 12 2013 14:24 CosmicSpiral wrote: Yes, I know that the Ring of Aquila aura can be toggled. It is also completely useless on Void. He has no spells to spam in the lane and his starting damage is pretty good, so unlike Medusa and Morphling he has no reason to have it. Toggling it in lane is bad and toggling it outside of the lane is pointless; he doesn't need mana regen at that point. So I don't know what you people are talking about in the first place. You're not ever addressing my original point. No, that's what the BF build tries to do. Necrobook build is pretty good as a midgame pushing strategy and the INT gain is really helpful. But...well, you're getting a roundabout damage item that only synergizes with Chrono. Doesn't account for his Time Lock or the multitudes of other issues. Wait what? You just said that Aquila doesn't give enough mana regen, then you double back and see its unneeded because Void doesn't have any spells to spam in lane? And you do know that he still gets the mana regen when the aquila is turned off, right? Turning off the aquila only affects whether the creeps get the bonus armor or not. Aquila toggling does nothing to his mana regen, so what the heck are you trying to get at? I'm super confused by what you're trying to suggest here. | ||
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