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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
November 12 2013 00:32 GMT
#86441
On November 12 2013 09:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 07:12 trinxified wrote:
On November 12 2013 07:05 Erasme wrote:
On November 12 2013 03:34 trinxified wrote:
Funny how Demon keeps ending up on a team that is re-shuffling or disbanding. Basically a drama team.

With that and your broodmother post, i dont see how people can take you seriously


Why? It is funny. I didn't mean it that it's demon's fault why things are happening like that, but he does find himself being a part of a team/organization that goes through drama recently... EG, Take5, now Dignitas. Granted he isn't the sole reason for all of drama, but he was part of at least 2 of those. Call it bad luck or whatever, but it's still funny.

Broodmother post is probably me just venting too much frustration regarding how silly the hero is. My bad for doing it here. I still do think being hard to kill is a factor for being able to consistently push, and often enough make space for her team.

If you paid attention to anything, this Dignitas situation would have happened with or without Demon present.

I think he realizes that. Seems like his point is that it's just funny how Demon happens to be there when these things happen, even though it's probably not his fault.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 12 2013 00:52 GMT
#86442
On November 12 2013 04:25 Spyisaspy wrote:
You know, i'm actually starting to think that icefrog is gonna later buff broodmother that her spiders will get the nonobstructed movement in webs.
lets see that 6.79b in the future yo

I think this would actually be a nerf because then you can't bodyblock with spiders.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 00:54:26
November 12 2013 00:53 GMT
#86443
On November 12 2013 09:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 07:12 trinxified wrote:
On November 12 2013 07:05 Erasme wrote:
On November 12 2013 03:34 trinxified wrote:
Funny how Demon keeps ending up on a team that is re-shuffling or disbanding. Basically a drama team.

With that and your broodmother post, i dont see how people can take you seriously


Why? It is funny. I didn't mean it that it's demon's fault why things are happening like that, but he does find himself being a part of a team/organization that goes through drama recently... EG, Take5, now Dignitas. Granted he isn't the sole reason for all of drama, but he was part of at least 2 of those. Call it bad luck or whatever, but it's still funny.

Broodmother post is probably me just venting too much frustration regarding how silly the hero is. My bad for doing it here. I still do think being hard to kill is a factor for being able to consistently push, and often enough make space for her team.

If you paid attention to anything, this Dignitas situation would have happened with or without Demon present.

Edit: Broodmother topic - I concluded that you cant join any team fights with her. You literally just melt against any competent group make up. So just build her purely for split pushing. Item suggestions? So far BoT, Radiance, Midas, and Manta come to the top of my head.


And I meant it as Demon just being in a team(s) that has drama whether he's part of it or not. His timing is funny as a whole.

The Broodmother games I played against go Necro3 ASAP. Makes it more obnoxious as ever. Perfect for split pushing while she hides in the trees.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 12 2013 01:55 GMT
#86444
*token derogatory comment about demon*
-> erasme goes personal

It's good to see things do not change too fast.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 12 2013 02:15 GMT
#86445
he doesnt even have a dignitas icon, cant even take him seriously
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 12 2013 02:27 GMT
#86446
On November 12 2013 09:52 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 04:25 Spyisaspy wrote:
You know, i'm actually starting to think that icefrog is gonna later buff broodmother that her spiders will get the nonobstructed movement in webs.
lets see that 6.79b in the future yo

I think this would actually be a nerf because then you can't bodyblock with spiders.

give spiderlings the broodmother's orb

imba
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 12 2013 02:45 GMT
#86447
On November 12 2013 10:55 Mataza wrote:
*token derogatory comment about demon*
-> erasme goes personal

It's good to see things do not change too fast.

Ya, you keep making stupid comments. Things don't change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 12 2013 02:47 GMT
#86448
The usual item selections for Brood as a split-pusher are centered around giving her solo-killing ability so that stopping her demands 2+ people. This is what makes Orchid the prevailing item choice and Dagon+Eblade preferred by certain players.
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 12 2013 02:48 GMT
#86449
i just realized teapoted has VP flair

im so sorry bro
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 12 2013 02:56 GMT
#86450
On November 12 2013 11:47 TheYango wrote:
The usual item selections for Brood as a split-pusher are centered around giving her solo-killing ability so that stopping her demands 2+ people. This is what makes Orchid the prevailing item choice and Dagon+Eblade preferred by certain players.


Necrobook could also demand more than one hero's attention, but I do agree with those items too. They just take longer and a bit harder to come back with if shit doesn't end up well.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 03:44:09
November 12 2013 03:02 GMT
#86451
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Orchid as a luxury item on Void. It's crazy but I feel that it solves certain issues regarding his intelligence gain and initiation. Does anyone else have experience in this department?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 12 2013 03:09 GMT
#86452
On November 12 2013 11:45 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 10:55 Mataza wrote:
*token derogatory comment about demon*
-> erasme goes personal

It's good to see things do not change too fast.

Ya, you keep making stupid comments. Things don't change.

I think you are overly attached. My choice is merely to be entertained by that.

The one who made the comment I was referring to wasn't even me.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 05:05:46
November 12 2013 03:13 GMT
#86453
Omg first time in 3 weeks i get to play

TIME TO CRUSH SOME NOOOBS AT DOTO

EDIT: OMG IM GONNA WIN

3 wins in a row
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
November 12 2013 03:15 GMT
#86454
Is there some super weird ass lag going on or what? Half the animations are super late or don't appear at all. Half the sound effects are missing. Its like unplayable for some reason, have a buddy getting the same thing.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 12 2013 03:41 GMT
#86455
Venomancer gale does 550 damage at level 4

thats more than his ult at level 1.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 12 2013 03:47 GMT
#86456
On November 12 2013 12:09 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 11:45 Erasme wrote:
On November 12 2013 10:55 Mataza wrote:
*token derogatory comment about demon*
-> erasme goes personal

It's good to see things do not change too fast.

Ya, you keep making stupid comments. Things don't change.

I think you are overly attached. My choice is merely to be entertained by that.

The one who made the comment I was referring to wasn't even me.

You're not alone, son. I am also pretty amused.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
November 12 2013 03:51 GMT
#86457
On November 12 2013 12:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Is there some super weird ass lag going on or what? Half the animations are super late or don't appear at all. Half the sound effects are missing. Its like unplayable for some reason, have a buddy getting the same thing.


I got it too, trying to last hit under a tower was quite hard when half the tower shots were not appearing. Also annoying when you can't hear your spells go off. I also don't think i was getting gold from some last hits. I could have missed them, but its kinda hard to screw up with a quelling blade tiny.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 12 2013 03:59 GMT
#86458
it still gives you gold, just no popup
i get the same thing sometimes, i think it has something to do with my connection
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 04:09:04
November 12 2013 04:08 GMT
#86459
On November 12 2013 12:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Orchid as a luxury item on Void. It's crazy but I feel that it solves certain issues regarding his intelligence gain and initiation. Does anyone else have experience in this department?


They're already "silenced" in your ult so that component is pretty worthless. Damage amp is nice but you'd still do more damage out of a traditional void item like maelstrom/MoM/bfury etc. and they help you farm to boot. If you're really suffering mana issues just get a drums honestly.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 04:30:20
November 12 2013 04:15 GMT
#86460
98% of the time, you will not get all the enemy heroes inside a Chrono. In those cases, Void gets destroyed by BKB-piercing disables and AoE ranged spells. Usually you are forced to initiate with Time Walk, which means after Chrono you will spend 7 seconds flailing around trying to bash scattering opponents. Outside of damage and Chrono he contributes very little to team fights.

Drums does not help his mana issues.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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