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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 02 2013 22:31 GMT
#85101
On November 03 2013 07:24 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 06:51 Najda wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:43 Zealos wrote:
On November 03 2013 06:31 teapoted wrote:
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. It's somewhat interesting I think, more so than many other topics that have been in this thread. But if people think it should be left out of GD that's fine with me.

This is so true ahahaha.
Sig'd that.


That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before.



Omg it's like I'm famous now.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
November 02 2013 22:43 GMT
#85102
I think it's pretty hilarious, Watching the shit storm and the people acting all Moral about it making "this community posts" so much more fun than the actual Diretide.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#85103
cant release diretide and give people tons and tons of free skins
u gotta pay for all of it now son
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#85104
On November 03 2013 07:43 Esoterikk wrote:
I think it's pretty hilarious, Watching the shit storm and the people acting all Moral about it making "this community posts" so much more fun than the actual Diretide.


I do hope that after reading so much drivel, we at least get a rare out of this.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 02 2013 22:54 GMT
#85105
i dont want pixel items i want valve to talk

SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 02 2013 23:06 GMT
#85106
On November 03 2013 07:54 Klonere wrote:
i dont want pixel items i want valve to talk


lol or what? You are going to be upset?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 23:08:24
November 02 2013 23:06 GMT
#85107
On November 03 2013 06:34 TheEmulator wrote:
Solo queueing is like Christmas morning, you never know what you will get.

I have never felt like an abused, beaten child on Christmas morning. I don't know what was going on in your house, but I am truly sorry.

On November 03 2013 07:54 Klonere wrote:
i dont want pixel items i want valve to talk



They are talking. They are saying "This Dire Tide shit is not worth a response, because we don't respond to stuff we don't announce or say is going to happen. Here is a totally awesome free game. Enjoy some Dotes while you wait for use to release new stuff."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 23:14:05
November 02 2013 23:13 GMT
#85108
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Valve could have prevented it though. One single tweet or a short blog post explaining WHY there's no Diretide and maybe some hints on whats to come soon. Valve stuff has answered on reddit before...

But complaining about the the reddit/twitch mob is just plain stupid. It's obvious that stuff like this happens. People are people and 95% of them don't care what they write on the internet. Especially if it's gaming related.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 02 2013 23:28 GMT
#85109
On November 03 2013 08:06 Plansix wrote:
They are talking. They are saying "This Dire Tide shit is not worth a response, because we don't respond to stuff we don't announce or say is going to happen. Here is a totally awesome free game. Enjoy some Dotes while you wait for use to release new stuff."

so much this. communicating with video game communities is generally a bad idea unless you want an endless stream of bad ideas, false expectations, and shameless entitlement. one look at the official Blizzard forums almost immediately exposes the mountains of shit these poor "community managers" have to spade through every single day.

i, for one, applaud Valve for putting a foot down to this bullshit.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 23:38:08
November 02 2013 23:37 GMT
#85110
On November 03 2013 08:13 toemn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Valve could have prevented it though. One single tweet or a short blog post explaining WHY there's no Diretide and maybe some hints on whats to come soon. Valve stuff has answered on reddit before...


i' just never understood why they needed to. do people here complain to their parents if they don't get a christmas present just because they got one last year? do they expect their parents to announce every year if they'll be getting something?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 02 2013 23:53 GMT
#85111
On November 03 2013 08:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 06:34 TheEmulator wrote:
Solo queueing is like Christmas morning, you never know what you will get.

I have never felt like an abused, beaten child on Christmas morning. I don't know what was going on in your house, but I am truly sorry.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 07:54 Klonere wrote:
i dont want pixel items i want valve to talk



They are talking. They are saying "This Dire Tide shit is not worth a response, because we don't respond to stuff we don't announce or say is going to happen. Here is a totally awesome free game. Enjoy some Dotes while you wait for use to release new stuff."


yeah not buying it

no matter how you look at it, valve could say something about anything and it would be better than now. i dont care how cancerous you think the community is (and yes some of us definitely do not deserve the time of day from valve) an official comment on say the fact they are moving to TF2 style big, less regular content patches beyond some random cyborgmatt tweet/stream/blog. some comment on when and why servers are going down. some comment on what they plan with features they put in the game that aren't fully fleshed out yet. some comment on SEA server issues. just...anything honestly!
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
November 02 2013 23:57 GMT
#85112


Wow people found matts number
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 03 2013 00:01 GMT
#85113
It's my favorite holiday. Daylight savings time will end tonight. I plan on binge drinking tequila and falling off a balcony to celebrate having an extra hour to sleep.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 00:10:40
November 03 2013 00:07 GMT
#85114
On November 03 2013 08:57 Esoterikk wrote:
https://twitter.com/Cyborgmatt/status/396759600663257088

Wow people found matts number


Aaaand "dota community is immature" just turned into fucking idiotic. Holy shit can people be stupid. It makes me sad to be part of this 'community'.


also this, http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/11/02/valve-forgot-diretide-halloween-and-dota-2-fans-are-not-pleased/
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 03 2013 00:16 GMT
#85115
just enjoy this while we can when #roadtoti4 happens we will all look back and laugh at these fond memories
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
November 03 2013 00:16 GMT
#85116
On November 03 2013 08:53 Klonere wrote:
yeah not buying it

no matter how you look at it, valve could say something about anything and it would be better than now. i dont care how cancerous you think the community is (and yes some of us definitely do not deserve the time of day from valve) an official comment on say the fact they are moving to TF2 style big, less regular content patches beyond some random cyborgmatt tweet/stream/blog. some comment on when and why servers are going down. some comment on what they plan with features they put in the game that aren't fully fleshed out yet. some comment on SEA server issues. just...anything honestly!


No offense, but I don't see why you people are being so delusional, I can take a guess it's because of you being inexperienced with how multiplayer games are developed and maintained. The 'community' has became this self-righteous, self-conscious thing that feels 'they' are important enough to make demands and dish out punishment should these demands not be met. You guys should honestly get back on earth and learn to appreciate what you have, 'cause what is currently happening to you is not going to go away with a sympathetic pat on the back, it's going to bite you over and over again and no matter how much you will deny the pain, it won't go away. Valve, as a company, as the game developer, as whoever you think they are, has no obligation, moral or otherwise, to serve you. They still choose to, so get your fucking facts straight and appreciate their efforts.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
November 03 2013 00:19 GMT
#85117
Proof that the Dota community is, in fact, the worst of them all. LoL's demographic might actually be in a lower age group, but dota's certainly behaves the most immature. Valve spoiled the community too much.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 00:33:24
November 03 2013 00:28 GMT
#85118
On November 03 2013 09:19 Kishin2 wrote:
Proof that the Dota community is, in fact, the worst of them all. LoL's demographic might actually be in a lower age group, but dota's certainly behaves the most immature. Valve spoiled the community too much.
Has nothing to do with Valve it has to do with unmoderated community hubs.

If it wasn't for twitch chat and reddit, this wouldn't happen. And most subreddits are better moderated. And twitch chat in Dota has been utterly fucked since the GD Studio started pandering to it. (I don't say this randomly now, I said this last year as I moderated the BTS channel when it was still usable, then the more organisations starts to 'embrace the chat' it got significantly worse, and eventually, it leaves twitch) joinDota/playDota not very well moderated either, but still the problem stems from twitch/reddit. It is much worse for the size of the community than LoL is, and certainly worse than SC2. But more importantly, in Dota it spreads to the other sites. Which is why I was real fucking glad to see that they banned twitch memes here.

If given the opportunity, the same thing would happen in every game. The people we're talking about aren't people that have been playing this game for 10 years and graduated college somewhere in-between. They are the new generation, they are in every game. It doesn't take a big percentage of them.
Once you Goblak...
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 00:34:43
November 03 2013 00:29 GMT
#85119
On November 03 2013 09:16 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 08:53 Klonere wrote:
yeah not buying it

no matter how you look at it, valve could say something about anything and it would be better than now. i dont care how cancerous you think the community is (and yes some of us definitely do not deserve the time of day from valve) an official comment on say the fact they are moving to TF2 style big, less regular content patches beyond some random cyborgmatt tweet/stream/blog. some comment on when and why servers are going down. some comment on what they plan with features they put in the game that aren't fully fleshed out yet. some comment on SEA server issues. just...anything honestly!


No offense, but I don't see why you people are being so delusional, I can take a guess it's because of you being inexperienced with how multiplayer games are developed and maintained. The 'community' has became this self-righteous, self-conscious thing that feels 'they' are important enough to make demands and dish out punishment should these demands not be met. You guys should honestly get back on earth and learn to appreciate what you have, 'cause what is currently happening to you is not going to go away with a sympathetic pat on the back, it's going to bite you over and over again and no matter how much you will deny the pain, it won't go away. Valve, as a company, as the game developer, as whoever you think they are, has no obligation, moral or otherwise, to serve you. They still choose to, so get your fucking facts straight and appreciate their efforts.


That I would not really agree with. There is no Valve without customers and fans. As much as we need Valve for their games and whatnot, they need us as well. Yes, if someone believes that Valve owes us Diretide or whatnot, they are mistaken. But it is naive and unrealistic to believe that a company such as Valve has no obligation to serve us, the customers. Their existence as a company is predicated on the idea of deciding what the fans want so to increase their own revenue, as a cycle.

With social media becoming more prevalent and companies are under the microscope of communities, they are no longer able to do what they want without repercussions. Just look to War Z; they had no real obligation but due to their non-consumer friendly practices and really shady methods, they got screwed over. You can look throughout the history of games how what companies try to pull are now having more affects and backlashes (such as Nintendo, SE, etc). Fact of the matter is the notion of, "let it all blow over" mentality no longer applies these days and dialogue, communication, or some form of interaction is ever more necessary. Are we owed such dialogue? Of course not; but do not be surprised if there is backlash due to it.

On November 03 2013 09:07 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 08:57 Esoterikk wrote:
https://twitter.com/Cyborgmatt/status/396759600663257088

Wow people found matts number


Aaaand "dota community is immature" just turned into fucking idiotic. Holy shit can people be stupid. It makes me sad to be part of this 'community'.


also this, http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/11/02/valve-forgot-diretide-halloween-and-dota-2-fans-are-not-pleased/


Even though I agree in part with what the author has to say, I just hate Forbes "blogs" at times. Reading through that, I could not help but feel that it was void of any real substance. Felt like one of those, "this is the new 'in' topic so shall just on the bandwagon quickly and make a small post.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 03 2013 00:31 GMT
#85120
http://www.twitch.tv/s4

S4 stream needs listing
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
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