On April 21 2012 23:21 Zlasher wrote: I don't think Kuroky is better than any of the Na'vi players honestly, and the teamwork that Na'vi have together bring them up that much more. People sometimes think of Navi as Dendi and 4others but honestly if you put them on a scale of 1-100, Dendi being say, 95, well the other 4 navi players are all 93/94, and the synergy they have together from playing so long together and winning everything together brings them up so much more.
Kuroky was great in Dota1 but even then he wasn't at the level of Na'vi in Dota2 in The International, he was an above average player in Panzer but not at the level of Na'vi, and he's still teamless and I don't think, in this current moment, he can compare to Navi, especially without a team to work with.
Giving dendi a 95, sure if you count only the western scene thats fine, but Na'Vi is an average team internationally speaking. Also LoH is probably the best player on Na'Vi IMO.
Was just using a number for reference. Want me to say Dendi is an 80 and the rest of navi is 78-79 then sure. I think like 2 years ago LoH is better than Dendi but just in the current state of Dota2, not Dota1, not chinese players who don't even play Dota2, then Dendi is the best. God is right up there, and then the rest of Na'vi probably with LoH, Puppey, Ars-art, and XBOCT in that order. Pajkatt maybe ahead of XBOCT if not right behind him, but PK plays a much more balls to the wall style where its either win in epic fashion or fail in epic fashion. The past month or so theres been not much failing from CLG so he's right up there.
Good thing you don't make power rankings, then again the people who do make power rankings suffer from "caster hype syndrome" as well.
On April 21 2012 23:21 Zlasher wrote: I don't think Kuroky is better than any of the Na'vi players honestly, and the teamwork that Na'vi have together bring them up that much more. People sometimes think of Navi as Dendi and 4others but honestly if you put them on a scale of 1-100, Dendi being say, 95, well the other 4 navi players are all 93/94, and the synergy they have together from playing so long together and winning everything together brings them up so much more.
Kuroky was great in Dota1 but even then he wasn't at the level of Na'vi in Dota2 in The International, he was an above average player in Panzer but not at the level of Na'vi, and he's still teamless and I don't think, in this current moment, he can compare to Navi, especially without a team to work with.
Giving dendi a 95, sure if you count only the western scene thats fine, but Na'Vi is an average team internationally speaking. Also LoH is probably the best player on Na'Vi IMO.
Was just using a number for reference. Want me to say Dendi is an 80 and the rest of navi is 78-79 then sure. I think like 2 years ago LoH is better than Dendi but just in the current state of Dota2, not Dota1, not chinese players who don't even play Dota2, then Dendi is the best. God is right up there, and then the rest of Na'vi probably with LoH, Puppey, Ars-art, and XBOCT in that order. Pajkatt maybe ahead of XBOCT if not right behind him, but PK plays a much more balls to the wall style where its either win in epic fashion or fail in epic fashion. The past month or so theres been not much failing from CLG so he's right up there.
Good thing you don't make power rankings, then again the people who do make power rankings suffer from "caster hype syndrome" as well.
Anyone that isn't you suffers from "caster hype syndrome" apparently.
On April 21 2012 23:21 Zlasher wrote: I don't think Kuroky is better than any of the Na'vi players honestly, and the teamwork that Na'vi have together bring them up that much more. People sometimes think of Navi as Dendi and 4others but honestly if you put them on a scale of 1-100, Dendi being say, 95, well the other 4 navi players are all 93/94, and the synergy they have together from playing so long together and winning everything together brings them up so much more.
Kuroky was great in Dota1 but even then he wasn't at the level of Na'vi in Dota2 in The International, he was an above average player in Panzer but not at the level of Na'vi, and he's still teamless and I don't think, in this current moment, he can compare to Navi, especially without a team to work with.
Giving dendi a 95, sure if you count only the western scene thats fine, but Na'Vi is an average team internationally speaking. Also LoH is probably the best player on Na'Vi IMO.
Was just using a number for reference. Want me to say Dendi is an 80 and the rest of navi is 78-79 then sure. I think like 2 years ago LoH is better than Dendi but just in the current state of Dota2, not Dota1, not chinese players who don't even play Dota2, then Dendi is the best. God is right up there, and then the rest of Na'vi probably with LoH, Puppey, Ars-art, and XBOCT in that order. Pajkatt maybe ahead of XBOCT if not right behind him, but PK plays a much more balls to the wall style where its either win in epic fashion or fail in epic fashion. The past month or so theres been not much failing from CLG so he's right up there.
Good thing you don't make power rankings, then again the people who do make power rankings suffer from "caster hype syndrome" as well.
Anyone that isn't you suffers from "caster hype syndrome" apparently.
Edit: Not sure how I typed that the first time :D
This is the same logic used by every dota player.
we wouldnt be dota players if we thought differently
On April 21 2012 23:21 Zlasher wrote: I don't think Kuroky is better than any of the Na'vi players honestly, and the teamwork that Na'vi have together bring them up that much more. People sometimes think of Navi as Dendi and 4others but honestly if you put them on a scale of 1-100, Dendi being say, 95, well the other 4 navi players are all 93/94, and the synergy they have together from playing so long together and winning everything together brings them up so much more.
Kuroky was great in Dota1 but even then he wasn't at the level of Na'vi in Dota2 in The International, he was an above average player in Panzer but not at the level of Na'vi, and he's still teamless and I don't think, in this current moment, he can compare to Navi, especially without a team to work with.
Giving dendi a 95, sure if you count only the western scene thats fine, but Na'Vi is an average team internationally speaking. Also LoH is probably the best player on Na'Vi IMO.
Was just using a number for reference. Want me to say Dendi is an 80 and the rest of navi is 78-79 then sure. I think like 2 years ago LoH is better than Dendi but just in the current state of Dota2, not Dota1, not chinese players who don't even play Dota2, then Dendi is the best. God is right up there, and then the rest of Na'vi probably with LoH, Puppey, Ars-art, and XBOCT in that order. Pajkatt maybe ahead of XBOCT if not right behind him, but PK plays a much more balls to the wall style where its either win in epic fashion or fail in epic fashion. The past month or so theres been not much failing from CLG so he's right up there.
Good thing you don't make power rankings, then again the people who do make power rankings suffer from "caster hype syndrome" as well.
Anyone that isn't you suffers from "caster hype syndrome" apparently.
Edit: Not sure how I typed that the first time :D
This is the same logic used by every dota player.
we wouldnt be dota players if we thought differently
Sure you would. Insert ragers/bmers/flamers/etc here. =x
Well you have to remember that Dendi does play initiator roles, Pudge for example isn't a carry he's an initiator and sets up the fights by getting one completely out of position, as well as heavily ganking. His impact on the game is enormous, so when people say all he does is make flashy moves, well those flashy moves win his team the fights, ganks, lanes, and match. If he hops on a windrunner and nails huge dual shackles that can lock down two of five heroes for 4 seconds, yeah its flashy, but it makes an impact. When he hooks 25 people in a match, its flashy, but it gets them wins.
LightofHeaven gives Navi a lot of flexibility, more so than the other players, but Na'Vi is a far better team than any of the others so individual player discussions is pretty mute/pointless.
As for KKY-, I really haven't seen anything new out of him since 3 years ago. Travaka Syndrome imo.
So I just got selected for Dota 2, got a pleasant surprise when I opened up steam today. Downloading and here's hoping my craptop can handle it. I assume if it can handle Sc2 and LoL albeit on low graphics, it could hopefully handle dota 2 xD
On April 22 2012 05:37 Judicator wrote: LightofHeaven gives Navi a lot of flexibility, more so than the other players, but Na'Vi is a far better team than any of the others so individual player discussions is pretty mute/pointless.
As for KKY-, I really haven't seen anything new out of him since 3 years ago. Travaka Syndrome imo.
On April 22 2012 05:37 Judicator wrote: LightofHeaven gives Navi a lot of flexibility, more so than the other players, but Na'Vi is a far better team than any of the others so individual player discussions is pretty mute/pointless.
As for KKY-, I really haven't seen anything new out of him since 3 years ago. Travaka Syndrome imo.
On April 22 2012 05:37 Judicator wrote: LightofHeaven gives Navi a lot of flexibility, more so than the other players, but Na'Vi is a far better team than any of the others so individual player discussions is pretty mute/pointless.
As for KKY-, I really haven't seen anything new out of him since 3 years ago. Travaka Syndrome imo.
On April 22 2012 04:52 Zlasher wrote: Well you have to remember that Dendi does play initiator roles, Pudge for example isn't a carry he's an initiator and sets up the fights by getting one completely out of position, as well as heavily ganking. His impact on the game is enormous, so when people say all he does is make flashy moves, well those flashy moves win his team the fights, ganks, lanes, and match. If he hops on a windrunner and nails huge dual shackles that can lock down two of five heroes for 4 seconds, yeah its flashy, but it makes an impact. When he hooks 25 people in a match, its flashy, but it gets them wins.
For myself, I was never a fan of Pudge. Although many would probably disagree, I think both Pudge and Vs are quite similar and I'd rather have Vs over Pudge.
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