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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
April 19 2012 18:55 GMT
#8321
Something happened I can't get on it says 'Connecting to Dota 2 servers' for a long time.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 18:56:01
April 19 2012 18:55 GMT
#8322
Is bottle worth it over soul ring on DK mid if you aren't going to abuse ferrying it back to fountain?

edit: yeah steam is down
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 19 2012 18:59 GMT
#8323
bottle DK solo mid is really strong but i dont think it alone could help you farm with fire breath constantly. Instead bottle is like an instant heal that cover DK from side lane gank and i often get it WITH soul ring. Given solo mid farm power 600 more isnt a big deal. And ofc, if you cant get rune bottle crow is a requirement xD.

Steam is down -_-... also beta client is receiving 3-4 patches already @_@....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 19 2012 18:59 GMT
#8324
Steam was down for me earlier but it came back up?
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
April 19 2012 18:59 GMT
#8325
On April 20 2012 03:41 NB wrote:
i just rush straight into rad and its pretty damn good as well. like i cant really find a bad item to get on DK really. Given the amount of farm you get from early soul ring into stacked accient camp. I do notice that pipe+BKB is core but i mean whats the best DPS item? also whats the best orb?


For pub games, you can anything you want, but for more pro and competitive matches, Radiance is quite uncommon.

If you're talking about straight damage items MKB or Deadalus will work fine. Lifesteal is quite common for a DK orb.

The reason why Chinese DK get Pipe, BKB, and AC is to take advantage of his supreme tankiness and his ability to take down towers with the team. So although the core items of Pipe and BKB are the same, the style of playing is different if you're trying to get pure damage items. Usually the combination of AC and his Frost Dragon form is more than enough to serve as decent DPS. Combined with Pipe and BKB, you have a very sustainable form of DPS in the teamfight, as DK just won't die at that point.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 19 2012 19:00 GMT
#8326
On April 20 2012 02:39 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 01:39 Numy wrote:
On April 20 2012 01:32 Scaramanga wrote:
On April 20 2012 00:54 Font wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:50 Dattish wrote:
Can't wait to properly learn Mangix. Was one of the few heroes that I always had to repick.


what the hell is a mangix rofl this is dota not w.e. MOBA wannabe game ur talking about(LoL)

I don't think he'll ever come back to tl after this fuckup


Isn't he the guy that already got a ban for some comments in dota sections?

Font was the catalyst for some of the most enthralling discussions in this thread. I think they're documented, somewhere.
+ Show Spoiler +
Font is the first guy to speak, then it alternates between Font and TL posters.


Seeing all those posts made me think that Font was a huge prick... actually hearing it just makes me facepalm.
ffxiv enjoyer
K-Na
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada86 Posts
April 19 2012 19:01 GMT
#8327
not really, dk isn't the type of hero to be fighting for runes, esp in the midgame where you'd much rather farm. you'd actually put urself into more danger trying to get them as a slow melee hard carry. soul ring is much more reliable when it comes to farm and lane stability.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 19 2012 19:10 GMT
#8328
On April 20 2012 04:01 K-Na wrote:
not really, dk isn't the type of hero to be fighting for runes, esp in the midgame where you'd much rather farm. you'd actually put urself into more danger trying to get them as a slow melee hard carry. soul ring is much more reliable when it comes to farm and lane stability.


You wouldn't be going to runes unless u were going that way anyways, the idea is to have an anchor mid that's very tanky and bottle courier to continuously pressure and prevent the opposing mid from leaving the lane while being unable to do anything to the DK
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#8329
On April 20 2012 03:54 DoNotDisturb wrote:
... did something happen to the Dota 2/Steam servers, update or otherwise, or is it just me?

nevermind Demon's game is fine, well fuck


If you're in-game when it goes down it doesn't seem to effect you.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#8330
On April 20 2012 04:12 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 03:54 DoNotDisturb wrote:
... did something happen to the Dota 2/Steam servers, update or otherwise, or is it just me?

nevermind Demon's game is fine, well fuck


If you're in-game when it goes down it doesn't seem to effect you.


I was ingame, and got forced out with a message 'No Steam logon', and when I tried to reconnect it said I wasn't in a lobby.
ffxiv enjoyer
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 19:21:55
April 19 2012 19:20 GMT
#8331
On April 20 2012 04:12 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 03:54 DoNotDisturb wrote:
... did something happen to the Dota 2/Steam servers, update or otherwise, or is it just me?

nevermind Demon's game is fine, well fuck


If you're in-game when it goes down it doesn't seem to effect you.

It disconnected 4 people at once from a game I was in, when I restarted dota it didn't give me a choice to rejoin. A couple minutes later everyone else still in the game disconnected at once.
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rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
April 19 2012 19:24 GMT
#8332
does anybody else have the synchronization error message? somehow synd is able to play right now. is there a way to fix it?
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#8333
On April 20 2012 04:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:12 Skullflower wrote:
On April 20 2012 03:54 DoNotDisturb wrote:
... did something happen to the Dota 2/Steam servers, update or otherwise, or is it just me?

nevermind Demon's game is fine, well fuck


If you're in-game when it goes down it doesn't seem to effect you.


I was ingame, and got forced out with a message 'No Steam logon', and when I tried to reconnect it said I wasn't in a lobby.


Hmm mine was fine until I quit Dota 2 and now I can't get back on :l
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
April 19 2012 19:38 GMT
#8334
On April 20 2012 04:28 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On April 20 2012 04:12 Skullflower wrote:
On April 20 2012 03:54 DoNotDisturb wrote:
... did something happen to the Dota 2/Steam servers, update or otherwise, or is it just me?

nevermind Demon's game is fine, well fuck


If you're in-game when it goes down it doesn't seem to effect you.


I was ingame, and got forced out with a message 'No Steam logon', and when I tried to reconnect it said I wasn't in a lobby.


Hmm mine was fine until I quit Dota 2 and now I can't get back on :l

Did you learn your lesson here? Never quit.
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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
April 19 2012 19:41 GMT
#8335
I crashed mid game and got an abandond because I could not reconnect :/
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 19 2012 19:49 GMT
#8336
I'm pretty much a noob, but I have the feeling that DK could get outlane rather easily by some of the premier mid-lane heroes. How does DK deal with that? Is he more of a situational mid hero (IE, the other team for whatever reason neglected to draft a good mid hero), or does he have ways of dealing with some of the better harassers/gankers/etc while in mid?
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 19:58:06
April 19 2012 19:54 GMT
#8337
On April 20 2012 04:49 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty much a noob, but I have the feeling that DK could get outlane rather easily by some of the premier mid-lane heroes. How does DK deal with that? Is he more of a situational mid hero (IE, the other team for whatever reason neglected to draft a good mid hero), or does he have ways of dealing with some of the better harassers/gankers/etc while in mid?


Dragon Blood and Fire Breathing will do it right?

The hp/regen + armor allows you to soak up auto-attack hits (even more so with stout shield) and then you have fire breath for scoring last hits/harassment and the stun to keep your opponent honest. It's a long stun so it's not something your opponent can take lightly.

Plus if you are going towards pipe you get the magic resistance and additional hp regen pretty early on.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 19 2012 19:58 GMT
#8338
Just now aL vs mTw, aL DK mid duo with shadow demon.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 20:16:00
April 19 2012 20:15 GMT
#8339
On April 20 2012 04:49 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty much a noob, but I have the feeling that DK could get outlane rather easily by some of the premier mid-lane heroes. How does DK deal with that? Is he more of a situational mid hero (IE, the other team for whatever reason neglected to draft a good mid hero), or does he have ways of dealing with some of the better harassers/gankers/etc while in mid?

DK mid essentially stalemates vs. anyone with Bottle-Crow, provided he gets to Bottle without being too far behind. You won't really exert any rune control, and you won't deny them, but your natural regen and Breathe Fire spam with Bottle Crow will make it so they simply can't prevent you from farming. After 6 they also can't leave to gank without you shoving down their tower.

The two counters are to play someone mid who's ok just freefarming vs. DK (I've seen Chinese teams pick Sniper or Syllabear mid for this) or to put a duo lane mid that forces DK out of lane before he even has his Bottle (e.g. CK+AA).
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 19 2012 20:31 GMT
#8340
double midas with sylla bear...

Terrific.
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