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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#82541
damn been 10hours since i queued for aggressive jungler 4pos
mm broken?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 20:37:28
October 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#82542
I'll queue as 5man lvl 1 Rosh
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
October 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#82543
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 15 2013 20:39 GMT
#82544
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.

The single fact that pubs at lower level get the most out of 2-1-2 lanes either forces you to kill trilanes or force lower level players into comps they cannot play. Junglers also fuck it up a lot, do they replace a support, so you actually enforce 1 support comps or do they replace offlaners, which makes no sense a lot of the time?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 15 2013 20:40 GMT
#82545
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.

Well thats just wrong lol
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 20:41:48
October 15 2013 20:40 GMT
#82546
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.

But what if a guy wants to jungle? What if they want to play aggressive support or defensive support? What if you're playing 2-1-2 and don't have an 'offlane' position? Gosh.

What about 2-2-1 if you want to dual mid with CK-X? There's no 'mid' position in that!
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 15 2013 20:42 GMT
#82547
On October 16 2013 05:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.

But what if a guy wants to jungle? What if they want to play aggressive support or defensive support? What if you're playing 2-1-2 and don't have an 'offlane' position? Gosh.

What about 2-2-1 if you want to dual mid with CK-X? There's no 'mid' position in that!

I wouldn't mind killing Wisp CK mid tbh
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 15 2013 20:43 GMT
#82548
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.


It would suck in Dota because composition synergy matters in not just lanes, but overall.

As someone said, there's CM/CD if you want that kind of play. AP will never be a serious mode no matter how hard people try in it.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 15 2013 20:44 GMT
#82549
On October 16 2013 05:42 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.

But what if a guy wants to jungle? What if they want to play aggressive support or defensive support? What if you're playing 2-1-2 and don't have an 'offlane' position? Gosh.

What about 2-2-1 if you want to dual mid with CK-X? There's no 'mid' position in that!

I wouldn't mind killing Wisp CK mid tbh


Don't you dare.
secret - never again
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
October 15 2013 20:45 GMT
#82550
On October 16 2013 05:39 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:37 pedrlz wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:21 SKC wrote:
On October 16 2013 05:17 NB wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345

Riot has such an effective social network design team. At least more than what ever Valve came up with so far. I remember people suggested this feature for dota2 4-5 months before TI2.

And I believe each time it was mentioned why it would work much better in a game like LoL with fixed roles. You would have to force a very rigid metagame for it to work in Dota.

Like a carry, a mid, two supports and another semicarry/utility hero? Isn't like if pubs went too wild.

Although the system would be much better if you didn't have to choose your hero before the game even start lol

Anyways, it would sucks at Dota because everybody just play AP.

The single fact that pubs at lower level get the most out of 2-1-2 lanes either forces you to kill trilanes or force lower level players into comps they cannot play. Junglers also fuck it up a lot, do they replace a support, so you actually enforce 1 support comps or do they replace offlaners, which makes no sense a lot of the time?

the system could be made just for more experienced players, anyways. Everyone knows at low level your team compositing almost never matter.

I see the problems with the system, but I don't think is that bad, with some work could be good in my opinion.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 15 2013 20:49 GMT
#82551
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2013 20:49 GMT
#82552
On October 16 2013 05:49 Nevuk wrote:
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.

Role playing
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 15 2013 20:49 GMT
#82553
On October 16 2013 05:49 Nevuk wrote:
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.

double the poissssson
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 15 2013 20:50 GMT
#82554
Being as stupid as possible is the favoured pastime of an incredible portion of the dota community
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#82555
moar poisons
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10959 Posts
October 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#82556
On October 16 2013 05:49 Nevuk wrote:
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.



Eye of Skadi is in the standard situational list for AA.



Suddenly OOV on Veno looks very, very reasonable...
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#82557
On October 16 2013 05:55 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:49 Nevuk wrote:
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.



Eye of Skadi is in the standard situational list for AA.



Suddenly OOV on Veno looks very, very reasonable...

DK has a very difficult build order:
OoV 6-10
Radiance 11-15
Skadi 16+
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#82558
On October 16 2013 05:55 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:49 Nevuk wrote:
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.



Eye of Skadi is in the standard situational list for AA.



Suddenly OOV on Veno looks very, very reasonable...

Naw man with a skadi AA can practically guarantee a cold feet proc

Valve have actually completely abdicated all responsibility for item suggestions in favour of the community via the guide system I think.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 21:00:34
October 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#82559
On October 16 2013 05:55 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 05:49 Nevuk wrote:
Why do people want to get OoV on Veno so much? I've never seen a compelling argument but people do it all the time.



Eye of Skadi is in the standard situational list for AA.



Suddenly OOV on Veno looks very, very reasonable...

zeus mjollnir

akasha blink

#dedication

wait

it is queen of pain, mask of madness should be core
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 15 2013 21:03 GMT
#82560
you mean soulring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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