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On October 15 2013 22:54 Irratonalys wrote:


Chaos knight beats anything but dusa if he`s six slotted. you wont ever get enough farm to get there tho.

On October 15 2013 23:21 -Celestial- wrote:


I've got pretty close before now. CK one of my best carries. Along with Naga. >_>

Though I think you're probably overestimating him a little.


As far as Spectre goes I'm pretty sure Void can take out Spectre 6-slotted. Not that I've tested it but in a quick theorycraft I can't see the Dispersion and Desolate being enough to make up for Backtrack and Time Lock plus that Chronosphere.

Much as I like Spectre I feel that when 6-slotted she's more of a teamfighter (like Medusa) than a one-on-one fighter. Dispersion is SO strong in a teamfight and Haunt Illusions with diffusal blade are brutal.




Void jumps in and drops a Chronosphere.

Fin.

(Alternatives: I think Antimage could probably burn enough mana within the duration of a full BKB charge that Tinker would be helpless. Naga too because of the distraction of illusions coupled with the mana burn of Diffusal Blade.)


As far as Meepo goes his biggest strength in my experience is the fact that once you've got three or four Meepos up you can level up and farm obscenely fast. But he doesn't get really strong super late game.

really? I understand he will do a ton of damage with his crit chance and then there are his illusions plus he gets a shit ton of hp, but if he's fighting spectre alone she gets the bonus damage of desolate and if he's fighting spectre with allies he will never be able to kill the real one.

On October 15 2013 23:40 Irratonalys wrote:


yeah , but there wont be just 1 CK , there will be 6. 3 from his ult , 2 from manta , closing the distance instantly with reality rift, and then completly surrounding you. Only dusas ult can kill them quick enough before they crit you down

On October 15 2013 23:39 RockIronrod wrote:
Huskar ghost sceptor - etheral blade - Aghs - abyssal -refresher - BKB best 1v1 hero in the game

On October 15 2013 23:42 Targe wrote:

haunt would give 3 spectres wouldnt it? + the original

On October 15 2013 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote:

How do you have Ghost Sceptre (spelled wrong regardless of your country) AND Ethereal blade (Still spelled wrong)? Using ethereal blade is literally the same thing as a ghost sceptre... Also you will literally lose to any hero that buys a blademail as well as any hero with rapid, reliable disable. And any hero with a BKB. Pretty much any hero, in other words.

No haunt only targets the real hero

On October 15 2013 23:40 cecek wrote:
We could go really deep on theorycrafting with this one. How do you get the items for the 1v1? It could be "choose 6 items, you have to use those against all tested heroes", I think with this, you would need a gem on almost a lot of heroes, because I don't see how some of them would beat invis heroes. (like Slark, for example. He could just a get few pot-shots anytime he's safe, then go back. He would probably eventually win a lot of hereos, essence shift having a 2 minute duration and unlimited shadow dance hp regen) Or it could be "you're against X hero, choose items, you don't know what the other guy has", which would lead to an awkward shadowblade vs. gem guessing game. If you don't take the gem, the other guy has a free initiation, if you take it and the enemy doesn't go shadowblade, you're an item down.

On October 15 2013 23:53 vndestiny wrote:


This is where you bring along a flying courier and plant like 6 sentries preemptively hehe

On October 15 2013 23:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Windrunner actually makes a decent case with 100% evasion for a decent duration plus max attack speed for free and a low BAT. Sure she'd get crushed by like tinker but you should be able to windrun in response to say void timewalk + chrono which completely invalidates it, then just hit him with Focus Fire + rapier rapier daedalus sheep aghs megabasher or something. You lose to MKB but who puts that item on their dream 6-slot carry :3.

On October 16 2013 00:04 cecek wrote:

Well, if we're counting couriers, it goes on a whole new level... All heroes would probably have all active items on the courier and swap them out for active items. Imagine blink, hex, medallion, orchid a guy, get 4 dps items instead, by the time the hex end, get an abyssal, switch back. It gets REALLY silly from this point on. Of course you have all aura items on other couriers following you, etc.

Actually, if couriers were allowed, Lone Druid is the clear winner. There's a bug that if you activate a courier from the bear, it can use items. So you get 50 couriers with mana boots, dagon 5, some with eblade and veil and just oneshot any hero there is. Just go mass survival items on the bear, just in case an enemy hero would kill you in a 10s bkb.

If this was WC3 DotA and couriers were allowed, it would probably be a draw between all heroes, because regular couriers can use items there.