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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 11 2013 17:05 GMT
#82121
Timbersaw is my main source of those awesome turnaround plays. 3 People come to gank me but stand too close together as I aoe burst them all down gg son wp.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
October 11 2013 17:06 GMT
#82122
On October 12 2013 02:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 01:58 Kishin2 wrote:
On October 12 2013 01:43 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm trying to think of the best feeling in Dota 2. Came up with a few things, one of my favourites is hitting a 5 man kunkka boat putting them at low health, then walking up with your shadowblade/daedalus and 1 shot critting them all


Getting 5 man AOE anything is always nice. For me, the best feelings are always the ones where I out mindgame my opponent. Adjusting a sunstrike or hook jukes and landing it is amazing. Any time you improvise a next-level tactic and successfully pull it off basically.

Yeah I like mindgames/smart plays as well, they also give me a lot of satisfaction. But I'm trying to come up with the best "BOOM MOTHERFUCKER" moments.

Wait for techies.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
October 11 2013 17:07 GMT
#82123
On October 12 2013 02:05 Najda wrote:
Timbersaw is my main source of those awesome turnaround plays. 3 People come to gank me but stand too close together as I aoe burst them all down gg son wp.

I hate playing Timbersaw because I'm always like "if i get more damage skills i can make them all be die more" and have to resist the urge to not level armour ever
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 11 2013 17:10 GMT
#82124
On October 12 2013 02:07 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:05 Najda wrote:
Timbersaw is my main source of those awesome turnaround plays. 3 People come to gank me but stand too close together as I aoe burst them all down gg son wp.

I hate playing Timbersaw because I'm always like "if i get more damage skills i can make them all be die more" and have to resist the urge to not level armour ever


I usually find 2 is plenty until you've maxed chain and whirling death anyway, and in the meantime you don't really have the mana to spam both nukes so it kinda works out.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 11 2013 17:16 GMT
#82125
You only need 2 in off-lane or some really hard mid lanes.

You can skip it entirely against weaker mids, but the extra chain ranks aren't that useful yet, so sometimes it's just better to get it anyway.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 11 2013 17:18 GMT
#82126
On October 12 2013 02:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 01:58 Kishin2 wrote:
On October 12 2013 01:43 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm trying to think of the best feeling in Dota 2. Came up with a few things, one of my favourites is hitting a 5 man kunkka boat putting them at low health, then walking up with your shadowblade/daedalus and 1 shot critting them all


Getting 5 man AOE anything is always nice. For me, the best feelings are always the ones where I out mindgame my opponent. Adjusting a sunstrike or hook jukes and landing it is amazing. Any time you improvise a next-level tactic and successfully pull it off basically.

Yeah I like mindgames/smart plays as well, they also give me a lot of satisfaction. But I'm trying to come up with the best "BOOM MOTHERFUCKER" moments.


the best feeling for me has to be those comeback games, 2-4 heroes in team are fucked, scores look so bad, opponent didn't derp around and actually wanna finish us, all hope is lost, suddenly winning 1 or 2 teamfights in a row and then team comeback to win. Awesome feeling doesn't matter what position i played.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
October 11 2013 17:22 GMT
#82127
I find myself saying YA BITCH GIT SUM every time I SF ulti
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 11 2013 17:29 GMT
#82128
PO-TAY-TOES
dota word of the day?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#82129
On October 12 2013 02:16 TheYango wrote:
You only need 2 in off-lane or some really hard mid lanes.

You can skip it entirely against weaker mids, but the extra chain ranks aren't that useful yet, so sometimes it's just better to get it anyway.


I find high levels of chain extremely weak in mid so I usually max out Saw with armor and a point of chain. I get higher levels of chain if the mid has some diving ability but for the most part I usually can zone most mids with the high damage of saw.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#82130
point is, timber isnt a farming hero, at some point you want to move to slay everything, and maxed chain is obviously better. Usually one point in armor is enough, also if you want to rush bloodstone, always get point booster + vitality booster before the rings
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:25:49
October 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#82131
On October 12 2013 03:08 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:16 TheYango wrote:
You only need 2 in off-lane or some really hard mid lanes.

You can skip it entirely against weaker mids, but the extra chain ranks aren't that useful yet, so sometimes it's just better to get it anyway.


I find high levels of chain extremely weak in mid so I usually max out Saw with armor and a point of chain. I get higher levels of chain if the mid has some diving ability but for the most part I usually can zone most mids with the high damage of saw.

I find it very un-advisable to keep maxing Armor after level 6. From 7 to 11, your map presence should be steadily increasing which means it becomes more and more necessary for you to have your damage skills even though purely from a laning perspective, it's not that useful to have Chain mid. If you're staying mid so long that levels 3 and 4 of Armor get more mileage than having the damage/range of higher Chain ranks, you're arguably not playing the hero correctly, because sitting mid and playing a farm-off with a hero that can get so much done with his level 7/8/9 burst is pretty questionable.

It hurts your level 11 impact significantly to not be 4-4-1-2 by level 11, because of how LONG you spent at level 11 given the XP changes several patches ago. 4-3-2-2 or 3-4-2-2 is necessitated by certain lanes, but beyond that, it really hurts your midgame impact to take more Armor than you need.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:23:29
October 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#82132
3-4-2-2 is passable at 11. The last point in whirling blades is definitely nice but not the end of the world especially if you aren't getting trees with it as well. The stat-burn is the same at all levels and against a lot of heroes' thats what really matters.

E: yango i think you need to re-read your post
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:26:25
October 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#82133
Yeah I just saw what you meant, lol.

Whatever, you should know what I meant from the context of the rest of my post.
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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
October 11 2013 18:32 GMT
#82134
On October 12 2013 02:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 01:58 Kishin2 wrote:
On October 12 2013 01:43 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm trying to think of the best feeling in Dota 2. Came up with a few things, one of my favourites is hitting a 5 man kunkka boat putting them at low health, then walking up with your shadowblade/daedalus and 1 shot critting them all


Getting 5 man AOE anything is always nice. For me, the best feelings are always the ones where I out mindgame my opponent. Adjusting a sunstrike or hook jukes and landing it is amazing. Any time you improvise a next-level tactic and successfully pull it off basically.

Yeah I like mindgames/smart plays as well, they also give me a lot of satisfaction. But I'm trying to come up with the best "BOOM MOTHERFUCKER" moments.

yeah, it's called a Techie.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:41:13
October 11 2013 18:39 GMT
#82135
On October 12 2013 03:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:08 Esoterikk wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:16 TheYango wrote:
You only need 2 in off-lane or some really hard mid lanes.

You can skip it entirely against weaker mids, but the extra chain ranks aren't that useful yet, so sometimes it's just better to get it anyway.


I find high levels of chain extremely weak in mid so I usually max out Saw with armor and a point of chain. I get higher levels of chain if the mid has some diving ability but for the most part I usually can zone most mids with the high damage of saw.

I find it very un-advisable to keep maxing Armor after level 6. From 7 to 11, your map presence should be steadily increasing which means it becomes more and more necessary for you to have your damage skills even though purely from a laning perspective, it's not that useful to have Chain mid. If you're staying mid so long that levels 3 and 4 of Armor get more mileage than having the damage/range of higher Chain ranks, you're arguably not playing the hero correctly, because sitting mid and playing a farm-off with a hero that can get so much done with his level 7/8/9 burst is pretty questionable.

It hurts your level 11 impact significantly to not be 4-4-1-2 by level 11, because of how LONG you spent at level 11 given the XP changes several patches ago. 4-3-2-2 or 3-4-2-2 is necessitated by certain lanes, but beyond that, it really hurts your midgame impact to take more Armor than you need.


I should have mentioned that I don't max out armor, I can see why it sounded that way. I usually end up 4-1-1-1 by 7 then get another point of armor or max chain from there, sometimes I will skip that second point in armor if I am going extremely aggressive.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 11 2013 18:45 GMT
#82136
So Qojqva is jungling tinker on stream and literally just bottle crowed without filling his bottle then put his 3rd skill point into rocket instead of march ROFL
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
October 11 2013 18:48 GMT
#82137
On October 12 2013 03:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
So Qojqva is jungling tinker on stream and literally just bottle crowed without filling his bottle then put his 3rd skill point into rocket instead of march ROFL

the furion ult just stole half the creeps ROFL
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 11 2013 18:50 GMT
#82138
Its ok his team really doesn't need him lol.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 11 2013 18:54 GMT
#82139
On October 12 2013 03:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
So Qojqva is jungling tinker on stream and literally just bottle crowed without filling his bottle then put his 3rd skill point into rocket instead of march ROFL


It's fine, he'll never play Tinker competitively for Liquid anyway.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 11 2013 19:03 GMT
#82140
he might have made some gaffes in this recent game, but qoqjva tinker is pretty legit guys.
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