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On October 07 2013 22:58 Bloodash wrote:
can anyone give me some suggestions of heroes to offlane that are non standard but can still work?
(other then Timber/Clock/BH/DS/WR/Mirana/LD/Furion)
Try out Lich, Enigma, TC, naix, Jugger and any durable str hero isn't mentioned yet can be used as hard laner(even thou not the best).
For BM, it is a good offlane for dire side but for radiant it requires more effort to pull off. Also can be stopped easily by smart warding.
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Explain why Ogre Magi has yet to see more competitive gaming ? while he is a melee support and has Mana problems, he has the best support skill in the game with Bloodlust and you could say the best Synergy in Dota 2 with Stun, Area Slow (With Ignite multicast) and Spamable BloodLust, wich its great at any stage of the game
I really want to see more Ogre Magi 
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Juggernaut, Slark, Spiritbreaker, Treant, Clinkz are pretty decent offlaners too in pubs.
BM's an okay offlaner in a pub, but your kind of limited to dire side offlane because the radiant ancients are much further away from the lane. If your ancients get blocked then you're pretty much screwed.
On October 07 2013 23:11 Faruko wrote:Explain why Ogre Magi has yet to see more competitive gaming ? while he is a melee support and has Mana problems, he has the best support skill in the game with Bloodlust and you could say the best Synergy in Dota 2 with Stun, Area Slow (With Ignite multicast) and Spamable BloodLust, wich its great at any stage of the game I really want to see more Ogre Magi
Ogre Magi really needs level as a support or he'll drop off quickly. The level curve in competitive games isn't as "evenly distributed" as you would normally find in in pub play.
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I often find that if you random gold any hero suddenly becomes decent offlaner in a pub.
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On October 07 2013 23:19 Gosi wrote:
tidehunter offlane
do it
Gosi master of 1v3, renamed to Gv3, trust him
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On October 07 2013 22:58 Bloodash wrote:
can anyone give me some suggestions of heroes to offlane that are non standard but can still work?
(other then Timber/Clock/BH/DS/WR/Mirana/LD/Furion)
Elder titan
On October 07 2013 23:11 Faruko wrote:Explain why Ogre Magi has yet to see more competitive gaming ? while he is a melee support and has Mana problems, he has the best support skill in the game with Bloodlust and you could say the best Synergy in Dota 2 with Stun, Area Slow (With Ignite multicast) and Spamable BloodLust, wich its great at any stage of the game I really want to see more Ogre Magi
Didn't akke play him in ti3 
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Ogre Magi is pretty much solely played by Alliance in a niche tactic with Lone Druid (often paired with Magnus before the nerf)
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On October 07 2013 23:11 Faruko wrote:Explain why Ogre Magi has yet to see more competitive gaming ? while he is a melee support and has Mana problems, he has the best support skill in the game with Bloodlust and you could say the best Synergy in Dota 2 with Stun, Area Slow (With Ignite multicast) and Spamable BloodLust, wich its great at any stage of the game I really want to see more Ogre Magi
none of his spells is really outstanding (except for bloodlust). a single target stun isnt all that great on a support and he needs so many levels for his ignite spell thingy to work, that once he got it, it wont matter as much anymore. similar to how venomancer is falling of the later the game goes and his slow is much much stronger.
i think the only time ogre really fits into a lineup is for some super 4 protect 1 (or everyone buffs the bear in alliance case). not many teams play it nowerdays.
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On October 07 2013 23:19 Gosi wrote:
tidehunter offlane
do it
Please.
LGD.cn did that in TI3.
Look how that turned out.
:X
Ravage used to be impossible to dodge.
Now when i play Tide, the ulti ravage just doesn't seem fast anymore.
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Ogre Magi has seen an okay amount of play, but its usually involved with Lone Druid for bloodlust.
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On October 07 2013 23:21 Baggage wrote:
I often find that if you random gold any hero suddenly becomes decent offlaner in a pub.
Truth +1!
On October 07 2013 22:58 Bloodash wrote:
can anyone give me some suggestions of heroes to offlane that are non standard but can still work?
(other then Timber/Clock/BH/DS/WR/Mirana/LD/Furion)
do you mean in pub play?
Sandking/undy/tide can break some pub safelane so well if you knew how to play the hero solo, you dont even need a stoutshield against some matchup. Even if you had poor farm your higher level would still be highly valuable for the team. Other than that you can do kupo's favourites like weaver/pl or the 'fun offlaners' like bara/aba/jugger. I hate to suggest Lich but it works if the oppo support was bad -_-
xiao8's ti3 offlane tide was actually fine if he didnt go farm when team needed his ulti multiple times i remember that >_<
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OM also has a pretty awful casting animation. His setup stun can be painful to get into action.
His greatest strength, though, is letting his user constantly make puns throughout the game. THIS BATTLE IS OGRE!
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Why the fuck can't I report people after the game ended ?
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in pubs you can actually build really retarded offlane duolanes that can even take on tris after like, they get 2-3 levels
Like Necrolyte and Death Prophet are actually both solid in that slot
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On October 08 2013 00:24 Shaella wrote:
in pubs you can actually build really retarded offlane duolanes that can even take on tris after like, they get 2-3 levels
Like Necrolyte and Death Prophet are actually both solid in that slot
*cringe*
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On October 08 2013 00:30 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 00:24 Shaella wrote:
in pubs you can actually build really retarded offlane duolanes that can even take on tris after like, they get 2-3 levels
Like Necrolyte and Death Prophet are actually both solid in that slot *cringe*
They're pubs dude. No need to take it so seriously and go 1-1-3 TRILAENS EVERY GAEM
infact most pub trilanes are garbage, they won't even bring sentries to lane
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On October 08 2013 00:31 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 00:30 Sn0_Man wrote:On October 08 2013 00:24 Shaella wrote:
in pubs you can actually build really retarded offlane duolanes that can even take on tris after like, they get 2-3 levels
Like Necrolyte and Death Prophet are actually both solid in that slot *cringe* They're pubs dude. No need to take it so seriously and go 1-1-3 TRILAENS EVERY GAEM infact most pub trilanes are garbage, they won't even bring sentries to lane
agi supports with dual slippers :>
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On October 08 2013 00:24 Shaella wrote:
in pubs you can actually build really retarded offlane duolanes that can even take on tris after like, they get 2-3 levels
Like Necrolyte and Death Prophet are actually both solid in that slot
Lich + a survivable off-laner (e.g. Lich + DS, Lich + WR) crushes like 90% of pub 2v2s and 2v3s since most pub trilanes don't actually know how to punish you and just bleed XP on their starved supports.
EDIT: There's a lot of stuff you can do with off-lane 2v2 even at a high level, it's just that people have played 1-1-3 for so long that off-lane 2v2 is like a forgotten art.
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Undying & Viper. Add Veno that and you can win by yourself.
Poison brothers.
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