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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:42:22
October 03 2013 20:41 GMT
#81081
to most people, a bug only exists when it has screwed them over in game, or has impacted their experience negatively somehow. until a specific disparity between dota 1 and 2 reaches that point, no one will really care about it, and consequently wont really be thought about as "bugs" unless they are trying to send a message with certain agenda in mind as Yango said.

I suspect that the huge number of bugs (as defined as any disparity between dota 1 and 2) will remain huge for a very long time, and no one will really care.

The only bug that I care about is w/e causes your item to get stuck on your cursor until you restart. That shits fucking annoying.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 03 2013 20:55 GMT
#81082
On October 04 2013 05:41 PassiveAce wrote:
to most people, a bug only exists when it has screwed them over in game, or has impacted their experience negatively somehow. until a specific disparity between dota 1 and 2 reaches that point, no one will really care about it, and consequently wont really be thought about as "bugs" unless they are trying to send a message with certain agenda in mind as Yango said.

I suspect that the huge number of bugs (as defined as any disparity between dota 1 and 2) will remain huge for a very long time, and no one will really care.

The only bug that I care about is w/e causes your item to get stuck on your cursor until you restart. That shits fucking annoying.

Well there's still a large chunk of actual bugs. Basically anything under the "Severe" category of the KBL, plus some of the top 30 or so "Moderate" bugs as well. All told, it probably adds up to 30+ gameplay bugs, plus parity issues, plus countless minor tooltip bugs that exist only because Icefrog sucked at documenting DotA 1 properly on PlayDotA and that carried into DotA 2 when DotA 2 devs used PlayDotA as a reference.

It's actually really funny how many bugs would have been avoided if Icefrog actually maintained PlayDotA somewhat more carefully.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 03 2013 21:01 GMT
#81083
On October 04 2013 05:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:41 PassiveAce wrote:
to most people, a bug only exists when it has screwed them over in game, or has impacted their experience negatively somehow. until a specific disparity between dota 1 and 2 reaches that point, no one will really care about it, and consequently wont really be thought about as "bugs" unless they are trying to send a message with certain agenda in mind as Yango said.

I suspect that the huge number of bugs (as defined as any disparity between dota 1 and 2) will remain huge for a very long time, and no one will really care.

The only bug that I care about is w/e causes your item to get stuck on your cursor until you restart. That shits fucking annoying.

Well there's still a large chunk of actual bugs. Basically anything under the "Severe" category of the KBL, plus some of the top 30 or so "Moderate" bugs as well. All told, it probably adds up to 30+ gameplay bugs, plus parity issues, plus countless minor tooltip bugs that exist only because Icefrog sucked at documenting DotA 1 properly on PlayDotA and that carried into DotA 2 when DotA 2 devs used PlayDotA as a reference.

It's actually really funny how many bugs would have been avoided if Icefrog actually maintained PlayDotA somewhat more carefully.

How do you know the devs are using PlayDotA as their source of reference?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 03 2013 21:03 GMT
#81084
he works at valve obviously
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#81085
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 03 2013 21:16 GMT
#81086
Mason hentai stack icon so we can support demon plz.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 03 2013 21:17 GMT
#81087
Pretty sure its "Mason's Hentai Playhouse"
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 21:20:48
October 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#81088
On October 04 2013 06:13 Erasme wrote:
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore



wow nice alliance flair, way to jump on ti winners bandwagon.

you should hand make a signature to support demon, especially after his team beat EG 2-1 yesterday!!!!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 03 2013 21:23 GMT
#81089
supporting real american talent usausausausausausausausausa

best country in the world never lost a war english #1 spoken language in the world etc
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 03 2013 21:24 GMT
#81090
ofc bugs that are severe enough for someone to complain about screwing them over in game will be fixed. Valve is pretty good about sorting out the most glaring issues.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 03 2013 21:28 GMT
#81091
On October 04 2013 06:20 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:13 Erasme wrote:
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore



wow nice alliance flair, way to jump on ti winners bandwagon.

you should hand make a signature to support demon, especially after his team beat EG 2-1 yesterday!!!!

good idea
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 03 2013 21:29 GMT
#81092
On October 04 2013 06:24 PassiveAce wrote:
ofc bugs that are severe enough for someone to complain about screwing them over in game will be fixed. Valve is pretty good about sorting out the most glaring issues.


Not particularly, Valve is good at avoiding flak from not fixing bugs but there are quite a few bugs that are pretty game changing. The problem is Valve has such a rabid fan base that they rarely get any real criticism and can more or less do whatever they want without opposition.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 03 2013 21:29 GMT
#81093
On October 04 2013 06:28 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:20 crms wrote:
On October 04 2013 06:13 Erasme wrote:
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore



wow nice alliance flair, way to jump on ti winners bandwagon.

you should hand make a signature to support demon, especially after his team beat EG 2-1 yesterday!!!!

good idea


#truefan
#motivated
#demondota

#erasmefraud
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 21:40:09
October 03 2013 21:38 GMT
#81094
On October 04 2013 06:01 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:55 TheYango wrote:
On October 04 2013 05:41 PassiveAce wrote:
to most people, a bug only exists when it has screwed them over in game, or has impacted their experience negatively somehow. until a specific disparity between dota 1 and 2 reaches that point, no one will really care about it, and consequently wont really be thought about as "bugs" unless they are trying to send a message with certain agenda in mind as Yango said.

I suspect that the huge number of bugs (as defined as any disparity between dota 1 and 2) will remain huge for a very long time, and no one will really care.

The only bug that I care about is w/e causes your item to get stuck on your cursor until you restart. That shits fucking annoying.

Well there's still a large chunk of actual bugs. Basically anything under the "Severe" category of the KBL, plus some of the top 30 or so "Moderate" bugs as well. All told, it probably adds up to 30+ gameplay bugs, plus parity issues, plus countless minor tooltip bugs that exist only because Icefrog sucked at documenting DotA 1 properly on PlayDotA and that carried into DotA 2 when DotA 2 devs used PlayDotA as a reference.

It's actually really funny how many bugs would have been avoided if Icefrog actually maintained PlayDotA somewhat more carefully.

How do you know the devs are using PlayDotA as their source of reference?

Because there are quite a number of tooltip and gameplay bugs that are wrong solely by virtue of matching the PlayDotA tooltip when PlayDotA is incorrect.

Just search the dev forum for the phrase "playdota is wrong" and you get a nice list, lol.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 03 2013 21:39 GMT
#81095
On October 04 2013 06:29 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:28 rabidch wrote:
On October 04 2013 06:20 crms wrote:
On October 04 2013 06:13 Erasme wrote:
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore



wow nice alliance flair, way to jump on ti winners bandwagon.

you should hand make a signature to support demon, especially after his team beat EG 2-1 yesterday!!!!

good idea


#truefan
#motivated
#demondota

#erasmefraud

i've known erasme being a fraud a while ago
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 21:40:45
October 03 2013 21:39 GMT
#81096
On October 04 2013 06:20 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:13 Erasme wrote:
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore



wow nice alliance flair, way to jump on ti winners bandwagon.

you should hand make a signature to support demon, especially after his team beat EG 2-1 yesterday!!!!

i always supported alliance and tongfu during ti3
my dream is that dota becomes 6v6 and demon learns swedish and join alliance
wow, way to hurt my feelings rabidch, take that back pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 03 2013 21:46 GMT
#81097
On October 04 2013 06:39 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:20 crms wrote:
On October 04 2013 06:13 Erasme wrote:
nice eg flair, when our hero isnt even on the team anymore



wow nice alliance flair, way to jump on ti winners bandwagon.

you should hand make a signature to support demon, especially after his team beat EG 2-1 yesterday!!!!

i always supported alliance and tongfu during ti3
my dream is that dota becomes 6v6 and demon learns swedish and join alliance
wow, way to hurt my feelings rabidch, take that back pls

demon joins alliance? you are so fraudulent
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 03 2013 21:51 GMT
#81098
There was actually a 6v6 mode in Dota 1 I think, never really played it though.
WriterXiao8~~
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 03 2013 21:52 GMT
#81099
On October 04 2013 06:51 Kipsate wrote:
There was actually a 6v6 mode in Dota 1 I think, never really played it though.

you're right there was.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 03 2013 21:57 GMT
#81100
6v6 was even more of a fraud than erasme jumping onto bandwagons. huehue
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
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