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Vatican City State2902 Posts
On October 04 2013 04:00 Klonere wrote:
yeah im perfectly happy with icefrog essentially having the be all end all say and probably being the only member of the valve team to be involved in balance changes
i would like to see more resources poured into servers (dealing with the issues that SEA and SA servers are having), finishing systems implemented into the game with little thought towards them actually being effective, fun and useful (TMM, Guilds, Mentor system, Ranked MM hueh, item eligibility system) and probably the biggest one, fixing the mountain of bugs that exist in game.
thing is that you have to have a single dedicated team for fixing bugs--not more than that otherwise you have the potential for developing two entirely different versions both with some bug fixed but something fundamental altered.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On October 04 2013 02:34 739 wrote:
What the fuck happened to Valve? Everyday network is down, I'm playing just 2-3 games daily and it's always fucking up after one or two games. JESUS PLEASE. GABEN FIX.
User was warned for this post
signed: mousesports editorial staff
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On October 04 2013 04:00 Klonere wrote:
yeah im perfectly happy with icefrog essentially having the be all end all say and probably being the only member of the valve team to be involved in balance changes
i would like to see more resources poured into servers (dealing with the issues that SEA and SA servers are having), finishing systems implemented into the game with little thought towards them actually being effective, fun and useful (TMM, Guilds, Mentor system, Ranked MM hueh, item eligibility system) and probably the biggest one, fixing the mountain of bugs that exist in game.
Reminder that most of the bugs aren't true bugs
Further reminder that its not a bug, its a feature
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What is a true bug Shaella?
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On October 04 2013 04:52 PassiveAce wrote:
What is a true bug Shaella?
if its just a bug because its inconsistent with WC3 dota, thats not a bug imo
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On October 04 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:if its just a bug because its inconsistent with WC3 dota, thats not a bug imo
Then you don't know what Dota 2 is
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On October 04 2013 04:59 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:On October 04 2013 04:52 PassiveAce wrote:
What is a true bug Shaella? if its just a bug because its inconsistent with WC3 dota, thats not a bug imo Then you don't know what Dota 2 is
Not every inconsistency is considered a bug by the developers themselves.
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On October 04 2013 04:59 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:On October 04 2013 04:52 PassiveAce wrote:
What is a true bug Shaella? if its just a bug because its inconsistent with WC3 dota, thats not a bug imo Then you don't know what Dota 2 is
Then you don't understand programming
Its only because its trying to be an exact port of WC3 that those are even 'bugs'
thats why i don't think they're real bugs.
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I don't think Valve really intends on having DotA 2 to keep perfect parity with it's Wc3 counterpart. They allow for some things that just weren't there in the other.
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On October 04 2013 05:10 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 04:59 Sn0_Man wrote:On October 04 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:On October 04 2013 04:52 PassiveAce wrote:
What is a true bug Shaella? if its just a bug because its inconsistent with WC3 dota, thats not a bug imo Then you don't know what Dota 2 is Then you don't understand programming Its only because its trying to be an exact port of WC3 that those are even 'bugs' thats why i don't think they're real bugs.
Bug report - Bug that worked in DotA 1 was fixed does not work in DotA 2, Volvo fix pls.
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the obvious solution is to play blizzard dota which wont have any issues with porting dota 1 characteristics
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lol I dont know why I decided to stir that shit pot.
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United States47024 Posts
On October 04 2013 04:59 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:On October 04 2013 04:52 PassiveAce wrote:
What is a true bug Shaella? if its just a bug because its inconsistent with WC3 dota, thats not a bug imo Then you don't know what Dota 2 is
His point is that they can only be called bugs because they are parity issues with DotA 1.
The idea is that when people say there are "mountains of bugs", they mean it in a way that is supposed to reflect poorly on the quality of DotA 2 as a product--which is unfair because were it any other developer that didn't care to try and make the game as close to the original as possible, nobody would count them as bugs. They only are such because Valve wllingly chose to shoulder the burden of making a faithful copy of the original. If you choose to treat every parity issue as a bug with all the negative connotations associated with the term, then you are judging Valve unfairly for not fixing them because no other developer has been judged this way because no other developer as attempted to faithfully reproduce the original like this when making a sequel.
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On October 04 2013 05:25 PassiveAce wrote:
lol I dont know why I decided to stir that shit pot.
Sometime you just gotta stir dat pot... :D
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And yet everybody was perfectly willing to complain about that batrider firefly vision "bug" (maybe i should call it an "inconsistency?") when it was around. Nobody was afraid to call it a bug.
I understand the situation, but you can't just pretend that these inconsistencies don't exist or that they should be there. They shouldn't exist, but they do. So they are bugs.
I'm not really flaming valve, I don't give a shit either way. I played absolutely minimal dota 1. But they are bugs.
Pot = Stirred.
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United States47024 Posts
On October 04 2013 05:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm not really flaming valve, I don't give a shit either way.
Which is fine, it's just that some people actually do misrepresent the KBL in order to flame Valve.
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Back to Dreads stream: Xboct playing Invoker.
Xboct: "How do I invoke tornado?
"W W Q."
Xboct "No its Q W W you idiot!"
"You can do it in any order you like..."
Xboct: "Really? Fuck this hero, I dont want to press so many buttons!"
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Some of them shouldn't exist. Some of them don't really matter. Sure, Batrider's vision was a fairly big deal, but I don't think anyone really cares that much that cogs don't give souls to SF. When people say theres hundreds of bugs that need to be fixed, they are not talking about the much smaller list that affects gameplay in any meaningful way.
I doubt it's Valve's intention to eliminate all bugs, if you expect that you will probally end up dissapointed.
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