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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
September 28 2013 13:28 GMT
#80161
valve are cool and all but are fucking awful at communication
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
September 28 2013 14:57 GMT
#80162
On September 28 2013 22:28 Klonere wrote:
valve are cool and all but are fucking awful at communication

sounds like a bad relationship.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
September 28 2013 15:03 GMT
#80163
Valve is like everyone's alcoholic and abusive husband. "But you promised HL3 honey!" "You never talk to me!"
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#80164
I had a 60+ min game as 6slot medusa, and yet, I couldn't even take the opponent's SK down to 1/2 health before I was dead.
What went wrong? o.O
http://dotabuff.com/matches/324787097
Should I have gotten a BKB instead of Skadi?
Did I need more dmg?
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 28 2013 15:17 GMT
#80165
GOSH
I didn't see the 3 heaven's Halberds. Holy shit did I need a BKB.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 28 2013 15:20 GMT
#80166
Also keep in mind that a) only you were 6-slotted and b) more than one of them was 6-slotted
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 28 2013 15:26 GMT
#80167
The Sk though man. He was hitting for 500 without crit :c
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 15:29:14
September 28 2013 15:28 GMT
#80168
Well, that's what happens when your Storm and OM don't disable the BKB-less damage outlet from their team.

Seriously, just ult, pick a couple of them off, then disable SK when he respawns.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
September 28 2013 15:30 GMT
#80169
MKB was a waste I think. I would have gone Satanic/Rapier instead of MKB/Skadi. But doesnt mean you would have won either, especially if you give the rapier to SK. Storm, Ogre and Clinkz just had pretty bad farm
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 28 2013 15:39 GMT
#80170
MKB versus the Brewmaster? It's a must have surely?
And my ult never really payed off. They turned away, and if any were caught, it was just a naga ult to cancel it, same thing for whenever Troll used his ult in a fight. Naga ult till it wore off.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 28 2013 15:43 GMT
#80171
On September 28 2013 17:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 17:10 miyuki wrote:
I don't know why you say Huskar is "going to be mid or safe lane". He is best used to dominate any lane. Put him against the opposite carry and have a carry yourself farming the other side lane, be it offensive or safe. He is not a hard carry type hero and doesn't need to be freefarming to be effective anyways.

He can't solo off-lane safely, I don't know what you're trying to say.

Yes, he can dual off-lane if you 2-1-2, but in terms of farming effectiveness, that's equal to or better than mid if you have a strong dual off-lane that's accomplishing its job of shutting down the carry.


I find him best to be laning in the safe lane with your own carry. You zone out their offlaner plus put pressure on any other supports coming in to help.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
September 28 2013 15:51 GMT
#80172
Cancer Lancer is still pretty cancerous in pub.

Won a game just by 4man till Lancer Cancer got up and running.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 15:58:19
September 28 2013 15:54 GMT
#80173
On September 29 2013 00:43 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 17:47 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 17:10 miyuki wrote:
I don't know why you say Huskar is "going to be mid or safe lane". He is best used to dominate any lane. Put him against the opposite carry and have a carry yourself farming the other side lane, be it offensive or safe. He is not a hard carry type hero and doesn't need to be freefarming to be effective anyways.

He can't solo off-lane safely, I don't know what you're trying to say.

Yes, he can dual off-lane if you 2-1-2, but in terms of farming effectiveness, that's equal to or better than mid if you have a strong dual off-lane that's accomplishing its job of shutting down the carry.


I find him best to be laning in the safe lane with your own carry. You zone out their offlaner plus put pressure on any other supports coming in to help.

You're basically suggesting support Huskar.

You realize how ridiculous this is, right?

On September 29 2013 00:17 Zealos wrote:
GOSH
I didn't see the 3 heaven's Halberds. Holy shit did I need a BKB.

Skadi was absolutely pointless for you to buy that game as well.

The heroes you're against have to really necessitate Skadi in order for it to be worth it over Satanic lategame (once your autoattack damage reaches critical mass, Satanic's effective survivability is just too good). Skadi effectively has to be sold on your ability to kite. In this case, only Skeleton King could be argued to be a hero that Skadi could be useful against, and their lineup makes effective use of Skadi to kite the SK around an impossibility.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 28 2013 15:56 GMT
#80174
On September 29 2013 00:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 00:43 trinxified wrote:
On September 28 2013 17:47 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 17:10 miyuki wrote:
I don't know why you say Huskar is "going to be mid or safe lane". He is best used to dominate any lane. Put him against the opposite carry and have a carry yourself farming the other side lane, be it offensive or safe. He is not a hard carry type hero and doesn't need to be freefarming to be effective anyways.

He can't solo off-lane safely, I don't know what you're trying to say.

Yes, he can dual off-lane if you 2-1-2, but in terms of farming effectiveness, that's equal to or better than mid if you have a strong dual off-lane that's accomplishing its job of shutting down the carry.


I find him best to be laning in the safe lane with your own carry. You zone out their offlaner plus put pressure on any other supports coming in to help.

You're basically suggesting support Huskar.

You realize how ridiculous this is, right?


Lol I didn't mean it like a support, but if he can't mid, he's better in a 2-1-2 setup. Pubs after all hog mid.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 15:59:42
September 28 2013 15:59 GMT
#80175
If you're laning with your carry, it's implicit that you're a support unless you're forcefully stealing his farm (which tends to incite rage from your teammates). It's not like Huskar can get 0 farm for the entire laning phase and then farm his way back into being a core hero.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 28 2013 16:10 GMT
#80176
On September 29 2013 00:59 TheYango wrote:
If you're laning with your carry, it's implicit that you're a support unless you're forcefully stealing his farm (which tends to incite rage from your teammates). It's not like Huskar can get 0 farm for the entire laning phase and then farm his way back into being a core hero.


Well you're right about the farming. Although that's where the Ghost Scepter thing comes up. With his new passive, this cheap item makes him effective enough with the little farm he gets. He won't snowball as much as he should, but that's hoping your mid-player team mate is doing his own share of snowballing.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
September 28 2013 16:22 GMT
#80177
On September 29 2013 00:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 00:43 trinxified wrote:
On September 28 2013 17:47 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 17:10 miyuki wrote:
I don't know why you say Huskar is "going to be mid or safe lane". He is best used to dominate any lane. Put him against the opposite carry and have a carry yourself farming the other side lane, be it offensive or safe. He is not a hard carry type hero and doesn't need to be freefarming to be effective anyways.

He can't solo off-lane safely, I don't know what you're trying to say.

Yes, he can dual off-lane if you 2-1-2, but in terms of farming effectiveness, that's equal to or better than mid if you have a strong dual off-lane that's accomplishing its job of shutting down the carry.


I find him best to be laning in the safe lane with your own carry. You zone out their offlaner plus put pressure on any other supports coming in to help.

You're basically suggesting support Huskar.

You realize how ridiculous this is, right?

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 00:17 Zealos wrote:
GOSH
I didn't see the 3 heaven's Halberds. Holy shit did I need a BKB.

Skadi was absolutely pointless for you to buy that game as well.

The heroes you're against have to really necessitate Skadi in order for it to be worth it over Satanic lategame (once your autoattack damage reaches critical mass, Satanic's effective survivability is just too good). Skadi effectively has to be sold on your ability to kite. In this case, only Skeleton King could be argued to be a hero that Skadi could be useful against, and their lineup makes effective use of Skadi to kite the SK around an impossibility.


Rapiers!
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
September 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#80178
I seriously hope icefrog puts a real backdoor protection (not some awfully bad regen) and destroys Furion and PL in the next patch. Splitpush is fucking unbearable
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
September 28 2013 16:25 GMT
#80179
Yeah, that'll happen.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 16:33:32
September 28 2013 16:31 GMT
#80180
Is it possible to kill Abaddon using a skill that will kill him before his ult procs? Or will it always proc?

EDIT: Nvm. Just saw it on Waga's stream.
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