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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 29 2013 01:31 EnumaAvalon wrote: Is it possible to kill Abaddon using a skill that will kill him before his ult procs? Or will it always proc? It will kill him yes. | ||
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
On September 29 2013 01:31 EnumaAvalon wrote: Is it possible to kill Abaddon using a skill that will kill him before his ult procs? Or will it always proc? You can, with things like Finger of Death for example. If he doesnt activate it manually and the damage you deal is enough to instantly kill him, then the ult wont proc and he dies | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
i just moved into a new place today (internet is pretty shitty) but i can watch 720p streams without any problems but apparently dota is lagging like shit. i can even turn on a stream while playing dota and the stream works while dota doesnt | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On September 29 2013 00:54 TheYango wrote: You're basically suggesting support Huskar. You realize how ridiculous this is, right? Skadi was absolutely pointless for you to buy that game as well. The heroes you're against have to really necessitate Skadi in order for it to be worth it over Satanic lategame (once your autoattack damage reaches critical mass, Satanic's effective survivability is just too good). Skadi effectively has to be sold on your ability to kite. In this case, only Skeleton King could be argued to be a hero that Skadi could be useful against, and their lineup makes effective use of Skadi to kite the SK around an impossibility. Huh, I've been told that Skadi is good for the stats it gives you too. 2 Ulti orbs on Medusa should be pretty strong. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 29 2013 00:16 Zealos wrote: I had a 60+ min game as 6slot medusa, and yet, I couldn't even take the opponent's SK down to 1/2 health before I was dead. What went wrong? o.O http://dotabuff.com/matches/324787097 Should I have gotten a BKB instead of Skadi? Did I need more dmg? Those enemies are damn good, SK/Furi can hit so hard, panda with about 3k hp(?), naga is so meaty as well, and drow decided to complete mkb first for you instead of buriza. While i am guessing your bone and storm basically get instant killed after bkb, doubt troll can dish out much damage before his bkb duration either. The only chance to win would probably be getting divine, lose the manta/skadi for a satanic, or even a crit is reasonable in this game since you really need all the dps you can get, may be 1-2 crit can kill off that furi and then you might win the fight before your team mates were all killed. I dislike manta more than skadi on medu, especially since you have troll you shouldn't lack of pushing power to high ground unless you are really need it to dodge stun other than your linken (then again you also have built-in split shot to dodge stun). Alternatively replacing linken for a bkb in that late of the game is reasonable, might as well yolo with divine(s) during bkb duration (sell all your stuffs except treads+bfly). | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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Coil1
128 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:11 BurningSera wrote: Those enemies are damn good, SK/Furi can hit so hard, panda with about 3k hp(?), naga is so meaty as well, and drow decided to complete mkb first for you instead of buriza. While i am guessing your bone and storm basically get instant killed after bkb, doubt troll can dish out much damage before his bkb duration either. The only chance to win would probably be getting divine, lose the manta/skadi for a satanic, or even a crit is reasonable in this game since you really need all the dps you can get, may be 1-2 crit can kill off that furi and then you might win the fight before your team mates were all killed. I dislike manta more than skadi on medu, especially since you have troll you shouldn't lack of pushing power to high ground unless you are really need it to dodge stun other than your linken (then again you also have built-in split shot to dodge stun). Alternatively replacing linken for a bkb in that late of the game is reasonable, might as well yolo with divine(s) during bkb duration (sell all your stuffs except treads+bfly). the point of manta is that split shot does a ton of damage with the illus having it. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:13 Coil1 wrote: the point of manta is that split shot does a ton of damage with the illus having it. Well ya if you had divine+manta (the point is your main arrows hit hard so illu arrows are nice add on/divine damage doesn't apply to manta)), otherwise might as well go AB/crit since that game was all about killing the furi/sk quick enough in the fights. And when you actually won the fight and game is still not ended, 2nd divine is the way to go. In short, Medu is a hero designed to carry Divine(s), while Manta doesn't get the raw damage bonus from divines and that 10stats bonus is pretty meh, the benefits from manta are actually the ms and survibility which really don't justify itself at that price range since Medu doesn't rely her ms/survibility on manta. And again manta is a pushing/high ground item. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:33 Zealos wrote: Ah, so I was too much of a wimp not going Rapier. I was concerned by earlier lost fights and didn't want to lose the rapier... man... if there's a chance to go clutch rapier. ALWAYS DO IT. you lose, meh we lost. you win, REWARDED TO FEAST IN THE HALLS OF VALHALLA | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:32 BurningSera wrote: Well ya if you had divine+manta, otherwise might as well go AB/crit since that game was all about killing the furi/sk quick enough in the fights. And when you actually won the fight and game is still not ended, 2nd divine is the way to go. Well, illusions don't get the +raw damage so you either go full illusion carry with stuff like Manta + Butterfly + Satanic + Skadi or you go full deeps with stuff like Rapier + MKB + AB. I like the second one with a Satanic added later for survavibilty | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:41 BlitzerSC wrote: Well, illusions don't get the +raw damage so you either go full illusion carry with stuff like Manta + Butterfly + Satanic + Skadi or you go full deeps with stuff like Rapier + MKB + AB. was editing lol, stupid hospital network and iirc the split shots can not be dodged? so mkb shouldn't be bought in the first place. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:01 teddyoojo wrote: does anyone know how much bandwidth dota2 is using? i just moved into a new place today (internet is pretty shitty) but i can watch 720p streams without any problems but apparently dota is lagging like shit. i can even turn on a stream while playing dota and the stream works while dota doesnt It will be down to latency rather than bandwidth. From what I can tell dota 2 handles everything server side, which is great for reducing cheating and eliminating things like rubber-banding, but makes you get a lot of control lag. Are you playing only on EU west (from Germany)? If I try to play on american servers I get a lot of command lag. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 29 2013 02:43 BurningSera wrote: and iirc the split shots can not be dodged? so mkb shouldn't be bought in the first place. Bugged in DotA 2, like a million other things. In DotA 1 MKB didn't even work with Split Shot. True Strike overrode Split Shot, and even if you turned off True Strike, Minibash overrode Split Shot whenever it procced. On September 29 2013 02:41 BlitzerSC wrote: Well, illusions don't get the +raw damage so you either go full illusion carry with stuff like Manta + Butterfly + Satanic + Skadi or you go full deeps with stuff like Rapier + MKB + AB. I like the second one with a Satanic added later for survavibilty Divine + Manta is fine. Skadi is situational because while it gives you a lot of stats, by the time you're at lategame, you don't need "a lot of everything". You need specific things that certain items give you to fill out your needs (e.g. MKB True Strike, BFly Evasion, Satanic lifesteal, etc.). It's very rare that you're deciding on your 6th item and you're saying "I don't really need one thing, I just want a lot of everything". | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
It's the same with Gyro Flak Cannon. Individual shots can miss individually when they shouldn't. http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=68896 | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On September 29 2013 01:45 nojok wrote: I've got my first legendary drop! The spider courier! congratz u deserve it now were u owning or feeding is the question | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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