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Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
September 06 2013 23:27 GMT
#76301
Maelstrom/Mjolnir, I've never gotten these items.ever. When should I use them? They seem to be getting more popular lately. Is it like BKB replacement? O.o
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
September 06 2013 23:30 GMT
#76302
I dont usually complain about patches but the one this week is just .... ugh
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#76303
can we just quash complaints about patches, shit is annoying
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 06 2013 23:38 GMT
#76304
On September 07 2013 08:27 Depetrify wrote:
Maelstrom/Mjolnir, I've never gotten these items.ever. When should I use them? They seem to be getting more popular lately. Is it like BKB replacement? O.o

They're farming items for heroes that don't suit other farming items and are not in desperate need of their orb slot.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#76305
ok what coool skins in new chest guys
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 23:46:55
September 06 2013 23:45 GMT
#76306
On September 07 2013 08:27 Depetrify wrote:
Maelstrom/Mjolnir, I've never gotten these items.ever. When should I use them? They seem to be getting more popular lately. Is it like BKB replacement? O.o

Farming and great attack speed item, no bkb replacement at all. Good on slow atk speed heroes that won't build a cuirass like tasteless void. Can't think of a lot more heroes tho And even on void I'm more of a BF mask of madness guy :o
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
September 07 2013 00:04 GMT
#76307
On September 07 2013 08:08 r.Evo wrote:
Can't believe it took so long till we see a clock blocking the camps with flares properly, that shit is pretty easy once you learned the timings. Now people only need to start with blocking creeps into the forest to get lvl 2 safely and he's s-tier offlane right there.

(VP vs Empire)


I had a guy doing that shit to me in a game a week or two ago. He literally blocked every spawn for like the first 5 minutes of the game at least, I was amazed. I'm not even good at this game so I was surprised to see it in my level of matchmaking.

On September 07 2013 06:37 BlitzerSC wrote:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/11416/

Nice patch.


- updated cloth settings and skinning Crystal Maiden, Invoker, Lina, and Rubick


Does this mean Lina's cranium will finally not be clipping through her hair and her elbows through her sleeves?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 07 2013 00:12 GMT
#76308
Brax did it at TI3.
WriterXiao8~~
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
September 07 2013 00:30 GMT
#76309
Someone explain why Razor is a good pick vs OD?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 07 2013 00:32 GMT
#76310
On September 07 2013 09:30 Depetrify wrote:
Someone explain why Razor is a good pick vs OD?

Static Link is not cancelled by Astral Imprisonment.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 07 2013 00:33 GMT
#76311
On September 07 2013 09:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 09:30 Depetrify wrote:
Someone explain why Razor is a good pick vs OD?

Static Link is not cancelled by Astral Imprisonment.

and every time he astrals you it procs unstable current, which keeps OD closer for longer
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 00:35:00
September 07 2013 00:34 GMT
#76312
you get those one range heroes that dont have heavy antipush mechanic. Or heroes that scale with attackspeed well: alchemist, all the bash heroes, bear, etc..

edit: this was a reply to the thunderhammer question... this thread grows too fast 4 me
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 07 2013 00:39 GMT
#76313
od is completely countered by razer, it's the one match up that i'd argue is bad for that hero. otherwise, lone druid and Kunkka (yes i'm serious) are "okay" against him.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 07 2013 00:41 GMT
#76314
viper can do pretty solid against OD too
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 07 2013 00:53 GMT
#76315
On September 07 2013 09:41 Shaella wrote:
viper can do pretty solid against OD too

disagree, viper gets dominated past level 3.
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 01:01:31
September 07 2013 01:01 GMT
#76316
od doesnt lose against razor when players are of similar skill
edit:typo
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 07 2013 01:02 GMT
#76317
One of the strengths of OD however is to completly dominate his lane, trading even is winning against an OD.
WriterXiao8~~
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 01:18:48
September 07 2013 01:05 GMT
#76318
On September 07 2013 10:02 Kipsate wrote:
One of the strengths of OD however is to completly dominate his lane, trading even is winning against an OD.

you're not wrong but you can say the same shit with other mid statues like Viper or DK. they all share the strengths of either being lane dominators or unkillable in dk's case..

razor just flat out destroys OD imo but i'm welcome for people to prove me wrong here. The matchup isn't really the eloquent, tactile fight like QoP vs Puck either rather it's a match where I envision two cavemen with clubs taking turns hitting each other.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 07 2013 01:07 GMT
#76319
i think viper can trade against OD. Like, OD can't just dominate viper the way he does most mids
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
September 07 2013 01:24 GMT
#76320
On September 07 2013 08:27 Depetrify wrote:
Maelstrom/Mjolnir, I've never gotten these items.ever. When should I use them? They seem to be getting more popular lately. Is it like BKB replacement? O.o

I treat it as a cost-efficient, direct path to getting right-click output out of heroes that have poor natural DPS growth and don't have any particular orb requirements. I think there was some mathcrafting showing that it's more efficient than desolator in most cases.

It's my go-to DPS item on prophet, and I also really like it on bloodseeker.
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