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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 19:14:11
September 01 2013 19:13 GMT
#75481
On September 02 2013 04:09 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 03:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Lol Stop talking about naniwa. He's an asshole, he always was an asshole, and it looks like he'll be in his thirties before he grows and and stops being an asshole. who cares what he says. The funny thing is his complaints can always be turned against him. IF he thinks dota is so easy for so much money why doesn't he play dota: Either "you need 5 people" or "i have self respect" if its 5 people then lol because naniwa has never even found a team of more than 5 people that can stand him for very long which is why he had to be isolated on alliance. if its self respect, then whatever naniwa, you are insulting the part of your sponsored team that has made it relevant and known. No one cares about the sc2 part of alliance they haven't done anything impressive.

You seem far too angry about this. Whether you like Naniwa or not, going this mad about a blog he made is pretty unreasonable.

not mad at all about naniwa. He's a joke. annoyed by a lot of talk about "naniwa drama" yeah. everything he says publicly sparks drama. leave it on twitter.

On September 02 2013 04:09 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:04 SKC wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:00 Derrida wrote:
where's this naniwa blog?

and also, what's up with having to pay to spectate tournament games? what's the logic behind this? you can just watch twitch streams for free?

The logic is that the organizers cannot place ads or receive any other similar revenue inside the client, so you cannot completelly replace the streams with a free to watch alternative. People buy them for the same reason that they used to buy premium services, better quality, both live and when watching replays. Also sometimes you get ingame items and stuff like that.


hmm well ok, but $4 is a bit overkill imo, does a single spectator on twitch generate anything close to that?

you are also getting access to First person Replays of the entire event.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#75482
It's also for the whole tournament not just one game.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
September 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#75483
hmm yes ok, good points damnit.
#1 Grubby Fan.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 01 2013 19:16 GMT
#75484
On September 02 2013 04:09 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:04 SKC wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:00 Derrida wrote:
where's this naniwa blog?

and also, what's up with having to pay to spectate tournament games? what's the logic behind this? you can just watch twitch streams for free?

The logic is that the organizers cannot place ads or receive any other similar revenue inside the client, so you cannot completelly replace the streams with a free to watch alternative. People buy them for the same reason that they used to buy premium services, better quality, both live and when watching replays. Also sometimes you get ingame items and stuff like that.


hmm well ok, but $4 is a bit overkill imo, does a single spectator on twitch generate anything close to that?

No, but I don't see why they would have to. You are also ignoring all those ads you see placed all over the stream overlay and in the transition screens, they are more important than how much Twitch pays. Valve also takes a cut from those sales. Either way, it's a premium service, not something that should give exactly the same amount of money to the organizer. People assign vastly diferent values to how much $4 is worth for them. For a lot of people watching ingame is just more convenient and $4 is an absurdly low amount of money in the big scheme of things.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
September 01 2013 19:17 GMT
#75485
My only complaint is that they should add a new page to display the tournament tickets instead of squashing them at the top of your profile.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#75486
watching ingame is really nice because you can control your own camera

Seriously, I love controlling my own ingame camera
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
September 01 2013 19:27 GMT
#75487
I just miss so much by missing in game, need some commentator/analyst wisdom first for CM stuff.
#1 Grubby Fan.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 01 2013 19:33 GMT
#75488
On September 02 2013 04:27 Derrida wrote:
I just miss so much by missing in game, need some commentator/analyst wisdom first for CM stuff.

It's not like you don't get those things by watching ingame as well. It just gives you the liberty to quickly check something by yourself if you feel like it.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 01 2013 19:40 GMT
#75489
I'm watching in-game because (1) much less lags than Streams in general (2) I can watch it using my own settings (3) I like my Bastion announcer
EZ4ENCE
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
September 01 2013 19:48 GMT
#75490
On September 02 2013 04:27 Derrida wrote:
I just miss so much by missing in game, need some commentator/analyst wisdom first for CM stuff.


You do realize you have access to all commentators/casters audio channels ingame right? Also have access to their camera control. Both are optionable tho.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 01 2013 19:51 GMT
#75491
You miss all the pre and postgame chat though.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
September 01 2013 19:55 GMT
#75492
On September 02 2013 04:51 Najda wrote:
You miss all the pre and postgame chat though.


The only thing I miss ingame is the twitch chat tbh. Pre and post game banter I can just watch when tabbed out, so there's not really anything missing. I wish Valve could link twitch chat ingame I connect with the people there, they just get me.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 01 2013 20:03 GMT
#75493
On September 02 2013 04:55 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:51 Najda wrote:
You miss all the pre and postgame chat though.


The only thing I miss ingame is the twitch chat tbh. Pre and post game banter I can just watch when tabbed out, so there's not really anything missing. I wish Valve could link twitch chat ingame I connect with the people there, they just get me.

You miss twitch chat?
Really!?
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
September 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#75494
On September 02 2013 05:03 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:55 EmilA wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:51 Najda wrote:
You miss all the pre and postgame chat though.


The only thing I miss ingame is the twitch chat tbh. Pre and post game banter I can just watch when tabbed out, so there's not really anything missing. I wish Valve could link twitch chat ingame I connect with the people there, they just get me.

You miss twitch chat?
Really!?


Once you go Kappa...

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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:17:42
September 01 2013 20:12 GMT
#75495
On September 02 2013 05:03 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:55 EmilA wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:51 Najda wrote:
You miss all the pre and postgame chat though.


The only thing I miss ingame is the twitch chat tbh. Pre and post game banter I can just watch when tabbed out, so there's not really anything missing. I wish Valve could link twitch chat ingame I connect with the people there, they just get me.

You miss twitch chat?
Really!?


Yes (no smiley)
The retarded copy pastas often make me smile and the predictable kappastorms are enjoyable. I just wish I could click the sexy grill links before they're deleted.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:13:42
September 01 2013 20:13 GMT
#75496

Blowyourbrain left Empire before they even announced the last player lol. +2 will be announced on 2nd and 4th of September.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
September 01 2013 20:13 GMT
#75497
Twitch "emotes" and their place on TL


Just so you know.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#75498
On September 02 2013 05:13 dfs wrote:
https://twitter.com/team_empire/status/374258076339019776
Blowyourbrain left Empire before they even announced the last player lol. +2 will be announced on 2nd and 4th of September.

What, I thought blow+scandal were inseperable and that that was part of why they had issues keeping some players. sidenote - I always think of him as phe`v
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
September 01 2013 21:10 GMT
#75499
On September 02 2013 05:17 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:13 dfs wrote:
https://twitter.com/team_empire/status/374258076339019776
Blowyourbrain left Empire before they even announced the last player lol. +2 will be announced on 2nd and 4th of September.

What, I thought blow+scandal were inseperable and that that was part of why they had issues keeping some players. sidenote - I always think of him as phe`v


I personally felt BYB was one of the weaker links so i'm not surprised.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 01 2013 21:26 GMT
#75500
On September 02 2013 06:10 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:17 Nevuk wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:13 dfs wrote:
https://twitter.com/team_empire/status/374258076339019776
Blowyourbrain left Empire before they even announced the last player lol. +2 will be announced on 2nd and 4th of September.

What, I thought blow+scandal were inseperable and that that was part of why they had issues keeping some players. sidenote - I always think of him as phe`v


I personally felt BYB was one of the weaker links so i'm not surprised.

He was always a player who was fairly inconsistent, but on his best days he did put up exceptional performances. Those just days just seem to have become rarer and rarer.
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