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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#75161
Also there is now a new system in place that will give abandons to those who try and dodge before picking a hero. #Dota2

-Cyborgmatt on twitter
Thank fucking god
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#75162
On August 31 2013 08:43 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also there is now a new system in place that will give abandons to those who try and dodge before picking a hero. #Dota2

-Cyborgmatt on twitter
Thank fucking god

sigh. I don't dodge players but I do have a last second "oh god I don't want to commit 30 minutes-hour thing".
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2013 23:49 GMT
#75163
Well tbh, I have always respect dignitas as a team. I liked how they play the game since they were potmbottom and they did bring lot of innovative strats on the table. I think Aui joining KP is just simply him seeking a stronger team for himself as well as dignitas needs a carrier that fit their play style better. I really love these new roster changes and cant wait to see they perform in big tournaments.

Also: MLG DotA requires 3 NA members on the roster.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 30 2013 23:52 GMT
#75164
On August 31 2013 08:49 NB wrote:
Well tbh, I have always respect dignitas as a team. I liked how they play the game since they were potmbottom and they did bring lot of innovative strats on the table. I think Aui joining KP is just simply him seeking a stronger team for himself as well as dignitas needs a carrier that fit their play style better. I really love these new roster changes and cant wait to see they perform in big tournaments.

Also: MLG DotA requires 3 NA members on the roster.

I'm the opposite. Although I think they've gotten better, watching Dignita's greedy drafts was pretty mind numbing.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 31 2013 00:02 GMT
#75165
On August 31 2013 08:46 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:43 Unleashing wrote:
Also there is now a new system in place that will give abandons to those who try and dodge before picking a hero. #Dota2

-Cyborgmatt on twitter
Thank fucking god

sigh. I don't dodge players but I do have a last second "oh god I don't want to commit 30 minutes-hour thing".

A few abandons every now and then won't put you in LPQ. This is more to deal with the chronic dodgers that leave when they see who their opponents are/what the opponents have picked.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 31 2013 00:06 GMT
#75166
On August 31 2013 09:02 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:46 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 31 2013 08:43 Unleashing wrote:
Also there is now a new system in place that will give abandons to those who try and dodge before picking a hero. #Dota2

-Cyborgmatt on twitter
Thank fucking god

sigh. I don't dodge players but I do have a last second "oh god I don't want to commit 30 minutes-hour thing".

A few abandons every now and then won't put you in LPQ. This is more to deal with the chronic dodgers that leave when they see who their opponents are/what the opponents have picked.

Or that really abusive 5-stack that 4-man Roshes while the 5th doesn't pick unless they get the Rosh and leaves if they don't.

It was hilarious to read about it on the dev forum, but it also sounds really dumb.
Moderator
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 31 2013 00:07 GMT
#75167
On August 31 2013 09:02 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:46 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 31 2013 08:43 Unleashing wrote:
Also there is now a new system in place that will give abandons to those who try and dodge before picking a hero. #Dota2

-Cyborgmatt on twitter
Thank fucking god

sigh. I don't dodge players but I do have a last second "oh god I don't want to commit 30 minutes-hour thing".

A few abandons every now and then won't put you in LPQ. This is more to deal with the chronic dodgers that leave when they see who their opponents are/what the opponents have picked.

Yeah I know and I agree with the change. I just have to change the habit of changing my mind last second into dedicating a match.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 31 2013 00:09 GMT
#75168
Cool, a new mailbox ui next to the exit button.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 31 2013 00:11 GMT
#75169
On August 31 2013 08:49 NB wrote:
Well tbh, I have always respect dignitas as a team. I liked how they play the game since they were potmbottom and they did bring lot of innovative strats on the table. I think Aui joining KP is just simply him seeking a stronger team for himself as well as dignitas needs a carrier that fit their play style better. I really love these new roster changes and cant wait to see they perform in big tournaments.

Also: MLG DotA requires 3 NA members on the roster.

Uhhhhh what?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 31 2013 00:18 GMT
#75170
MLG ticket is up.

http://www.dota2.com/store/itemdetails/15226
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 31 2013 00:28 GMT
#75171
On August 31 2013 09:02 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:46 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 31 2013 08:43 Unleashing wrote:
Also there is now a new system in place that will give abandons to those who try and dodge before picking a hero. #Dota2

-Cyborgmatt on twitter
Thank fucking god

sigh. I don't dodge players but I do have a last second "oh god I don't want to commit 30 minutes-hour thing".

A few abandons every now and then won't put you in LPQ. This is more to deal with the chronic dodgers that leave when they see who their opponents are/what the opponents have picked.


Some actually do this because they see someone who they flamed last game back onto the next game on their team...

Funny how this happens often. You play with or against the same 2-3 players (sometimes even more) from the last game
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 00:32:02
August 31 2013 00:31 GMT
#75172
On August 31 2013 09:11 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 08:49 NB wrote:
Well tbh, I have always respect dignitas as a team. I liked how they play the game since they were potmbottom and they did bring lot of innovative strats on the table. I think Aui joining KP is just simply him seeking a stronger team for himself as well as dignitas needs a carrier that fit their play style better. I really love these new roster changes and cant wait to see they perform in big tournaments.

Also: MLG DotA requires 3 NA members on the roster.

Uhhhhh what?


What?

KP has shown far stronger results than Dignitas has recently. Dignitas fell of a cliff leading up to TI.
secret - never again
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 31 2013 00:38 GMT
#75173
On August 31 2013 09:31 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 09:11 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 31 2013 08:49 NB wrote:
Well tbh, I have always respect dignitas as a team. I liked how they play the game since they were potmbottom and they did bring lot of innovative strats on the table. I think Aui joining KP is just simply him seeking a stronger team for himself as well as dignitas needs a carrier that fit their play style better. I really love these new roster changes and cant wait to see they perform in big tournaments.

Also: MLG DotA requires 3 NA members on the roster.

Uhhhhh what?


What?

KP has shown far stronger results than Dignitas has recently. Dignitas fell of a cliff leading up to TI.


and then surprised the world by almost making it into the Winner's Bracket.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 31 2013 00:42 GMT
#75174
they had a good chance but way2sexy and sneyking kinda sucked
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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 00:50:06
August 31 2013 00:49 GMT
#75175
Sometimes I wish there was more of a mid level in competitive Dota right now, watching teams only making teams for a chance at TI then evaporating the team soon after just leaves a sour taste in my mouth, like the developing talent takes a serious hit when they are either TI quality or they aren't. I feel like pretty soon the TI viable player pool is going to dry up and the scene is going to stagnate.

At least the MLG tourny is doing something to alleviate this but it will likely just get plowed over by pro stacks anyway *shrug*. Seems like Korea is the only developing scene right now.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 31 2013 01:16 GMT
#75176
On August 31 2013 09:49 Esoterikk wrote:
Sometimes I wish there was more of a mid level in competitive Dota right now, watching teams only making teams for a chance at TI then evaporating the team soon after just leaves a sour taste in my mouth, like the developing talent takes a serious hit when they are either TI quality or they aren't. I feel like pretty soon the TI viable player pool is going to dry up and the scene is going to stagnate.

At least the MLG tourny is doing something to alleviate this but it will likely just get plowed over by pro stacks anyway *shrug*. Seems like Korea is the only developing scene right now.


There's a lot of mid level competitive dota. Just not North American.

Starladder, Eizo Cup, and the North American Dota league show(ed) off plenty of teams that didn't get into TI3. Teams will always look to change/improve when they can. All TI and this time of year does is make it so that there is a sort of 'offseason' for this to happen. These changes would happen anyway, it's just because of the roster freeze that this ends up happening.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 31 2013 01:16 GMT
#75177
On August 31 2013 09:49 Esoterikk wrote:
Sometimes I wish there was more of a mid level in competitive Dota right now, watching teams only making teams for a chance at TI then evaporating the team soon after just leaves a sour taste in my mouth, like the developing talent takes a serious hit when they are either TI quality or they aren't. I feel like pretty soon the TI viable player pool is going to dry up and the scene is going to stagnate.

At least the MLG tourny is doing something to alleviate this but it will likely just get plowed over by pro stacks anyway *shrug*. Seems like Korea is the only developing scene right now.

if you want mid tier Dota look to Europe. they are full of it. NA will get the same once MLG decides to stay in the game.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 31 2013 01:29 GMT
#75178
dont know about getting the same.... We are talking about xbone and PS4 coming out with developers putting millions into those games too. With the existing console culture in NA, CoD will be what taking over and i doubt there are as much attention toward dota2.

I mean, if you look at sc2, all the playhem weekly tournament has never take off in NA. We tried to make it work but the scene just dont have the will to get pass the skill curve that they are 3 years behind compare to the rest of the world(by that i mean avg skill level of entire server, not top pros). The only good thing about the NA scene is players tend to try harder to obtain the win, which is also a negative effect on the casual scene as a whole.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 31 2013 01:32 GMT
#75179
I doubt MLG will move over to XBONE or PS4 for a few years
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 31 2013 01:35 GMT
#75180
On August 31 2013 10:29 NB wrote:
dont know about getting the same.... We are talking about xbone and PS4 coming out with developers putting millions into those games too. With the existing console culture in NA, CoD will be what taking over and i doubt there are as much attention toward dota2.

I mean, if you look at sc2, all the playhem weekly tournament has never take off in NA. We tried to make it work but the scene just dont have the will to get pass the skill curve that they are 3 years behind compare to the rest of the world(by that i mean avg skill level of entire server, not top pros). The only good thing about the NA scene is players tend to try harder to obtain the win, which is also a negative effect on the casual scene as a whole.

what are you talking about? MLG having a steady series of NA tournaments means a Lower tier American scene will form. provided the tournaments are run well. its not about breeding the servers, in which case NA isn't really even far behind europe they are roughly equal in pub skill. its about breeding the semi pro teams.
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