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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 31 2013 01:37 GMT
#75181
by the way, i found out something cool today. So in the watch tab it show you how many games are being played. You could also filter these games by the hero name. With that you can tell how popular different heroes is depends on server/hours etc.

Barathrum's ratio right now: 5/27. Pudge 6/27 @_@
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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
August 31 2013 01:48 GMT
#75182
On August 31 2013 05:04 IPA wrote:
Does anyone else feel like the standard Dota 2 announcer, not to mention the kinda awful late-90s internet terms like "wicked sick" and "ownage", feel campy and oftentimes downright bad? It almost defeats the purpose for me. It feels comical (and not in a good way).

Small complaint. I love dota.

No I love it and I feel it creates a very exciting atmosphere for team fights.
Hearing 'triple ki, ultra ki, R-R-RAMPAGE' with the announcement for triple and ultra kill cut short is one of the sickest* feelings ever I get whilst playing, regardless of whose kill streak it is. I use default announcer even though I have a couple of others in inventory.

*feeling could be described as 'wicked sick'
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 31 2013 02:00 GMT
#75183
On August 31 2013 10:48 Ryder. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:04 IPA wrote:
Does anyone else feel like the standard Dota 2 announcer, not to mention the kinda awful late-90s internet terms like "wicked sick" and "ownage", feel campy and oftentimes downright bad? It almost defeats the purpose for me. It feels comical (and not in a good way).

Small complaint. I love dota.

No I love it and I feel it creates a very exciting atmosphere for team fights.
Hearing 'triple ki, ultra ki, R-R-RAMPAGE' with the announcement for triple and ultra kill cut short is one of the sickest* feelings ever I get whilst playing, regardless of whose kill streak it is. I use default announcer even though I have a couple of others in inventory.

*feeling could be described as 'wicked sick'

I can't stand the pwned thing, it absolutely sucks and feels out of place. Just replaced the word with killed, pwned is like a term used from the glorious halo 2 8 year old kid days.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 02:20:04
August 31 2013 02:06 GMT
#75184
On August 31 2013 10:35 PrinceXizor wrote:
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On August 31 2013 10:29 NB wrote:
dont know about getting the same.... We are talking about xbone and PS4 coming out with developers putting millions into those games too. With the existing console culture in NA, CoD will be what taking over and i doubt there are as much attention toward dota2.

I mean, if you look at sc2, all the playhem weekly tournament has never take off in NA. We tried to make it work but the scene just dont have the will to get pass the skill curve that they are 3 years behind compare to the rest of the world(by that i mean avg skill level of entire server, not top pros). The only good thing about the NA scene is players tend to try harder to obtain the win, which is also a negative effect on the casual scene as a whole.

what are you talking about? MLG having a steady series of NA tournaments means a Lower tier American scene will form. provided the tournaments are run well. its not about breeding the servers, in which case NA isn't really even far behind europe they are roughly equal in pub skill. its about breeding the semi pro teams.
I don't know what 'equal in pub skill' is even supposed to mean.

Europe has multiple times more players than NA. If there are 10 times more high skilled players, then it's not equal. Are the players at the top of a similar skill? Sure, this isn't SC with Korea, but that's not entirely relevant. SEA pub skill is higher but their teams are struggling, and they've always had amateur tournaments to compete in.

Anyway, not really important. I think NA has 2-3 decent teams in it left just from strong in-house players and ex-pros, let alone new players. So we'll have to see what comes out of MLG's events. Ultimately you still need to have 4-5 people who really want to make it happen. Because if we look at Fire or PB, they didn't have local tournaments, but they made it happen. That's the worrying part, we really haven't had new NA teams pop up to play in international tournaments. (which are any good at least)
Once you Goblak...
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 02:35:42
August 31 2013 02:34 GMT
#75185
I was just looking at a similar situation when SC2:WoL came out. Yeah we had decent pros and personalities. In fact, since day9, husky, HDstarcraft were all in NA, the scene supposed to grow much more. But most of the mid tier tournaments in NA never live up while EU pros could fund their living via online competitions. I expect similar phenomenal with DotA2 and have no regret if im wrong.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 02:46:49
August 31 2013 02:46 GMT
#75186
On August 31 2013 11:34 NB wrote:
I was just looking at a similar situation when SC2:WoL came out. Yeah we had decent pros and personalities. In fact, since day9, husky, HDstarcraft were all in NA, the scene supposed to grow much more. But most of the mid tier tournaments in NA never live up while EU pros could fund their living via online competitions. I expect similar phenomenal with DotA2 and have no regret if im wrong.

i agree with this assessment unless some of our HoNtrash conversions becomes.....ProHoN? I dunno.

lets just hope fnatic isn't the only team to convert successfully.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 31 2013 02:47 GMT
#75187
Anybody know the list of some "hidden" commands? Not console commands, but like in-game stuff that are not on the settings menu, like ctrl + Q/W/E/R, etc. to skill or stats quickly? That's the only one I know.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 31 2013 03:03 GMT
#75188
On August 31 2013 11:34 NB wrote:
I was just looking at a similar situation when SC2:WoL came out. Yeah we had decent pros and personalities. In fact, since day9, husky, HDstarcraft were all in NA, the scene supposed to grow much more. But most of the mid tier tournaments in NA never live up while EU pros could fund their living via online competitions. I expect similar phenomenal with DotA2 and have no regret if im wrong.

the problem with SC2 was that the smalltime side got CRUSHED by seeing koreans who they could never compete with win everything
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 31 2013 03:27 GMT
#75189

just watch

User was warned for this post
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 31 2013 03:31 GMT
#75190
On August 31 2013 12:27 Shadowpostin wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNPvgN9G_4
just watch

whats this got to do with dota.
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 31 2013 03:35 GMT
#75191
the how dota dodged a bullet there story
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 31 2013 03:43 GMT
#75192
On August 31 2013 12:03 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 11:34 NB wrote:
I was just looking at a similar situation when SC2:WoL came out. Yeah we had decent pros and personalities. In fact, since day9, husky, HDstarcraft were all in NA, the scene supposed to grow much more. But most of the mid tier tournaments in NA never live up while EU pros could fund their living via online competitions. I expect similar phenomenal with DotA2 and have no regret if im wrong.

the problem with SC2 was that the smalltime side got CRUSHED by seeing koreans who they could never compete with win everything

that isnt true. In the first 2 years we did put up a good fight. Jinro did won an MLG, so did HuK and Naniwa and we have several players made it into GSL etc... Only later on when the Korean training house kicked in, we started losing.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 31 2013 05:44 GMT
#75193
i know you are excited for root gaming dota 2 squad to emerge from the fires and the flames and ashes do not lie
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 31 2013 06:00 GMT
#75194
On August 31 2013 12:35 Shadowpostin wrote:
the how dota dodged a bullet there story

It's some silly 10-minute drama involving League. What bullet was there to be dodged? The fact that we don't have anything sappy like this associated with DOTA2? There's probably something worse out there.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 31 2013 06:02 GMT
#75195
Why is dota tournament coverage so poor? I want to know if it's worth buying the tickets to the CDEC Season 2-4 league and the Rapture Gaming Network League, but I can't find any information on either tournament. Liquipedia doesn't even have them listed as existing. There's no info on any of the games, and I can't find any streaming channel that's covering them (or rather, that's covering them and has vods available). The RaptureGaming twitch channel doesn't have a single vod of its own tournament. I just want to know if there's great games to watch and/or interesting team compositions being employed, etc. If the tournaments aren't getting any coverage they won't sell any tickets and won't be able to succeed. Am I missing something here?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 31 2013 06:11 GMT
#75196
CDEC isn't a real tournament, which is why there's no coverage. It's basically just Chinese top level IHL games that are accessible under the tournament ticket.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 06:17:20
August 31 2013 06:12 GMT
#75197
On August 31 2013 15:02 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Why is dota tournament coverage so poor? I want to know if it's worth buying the tickets to the CDEC Season 2-4 league and the Rapture Gaming Network League, but I can't find any information on either tournament. Liquipedia doesn't even have them listed as existing. There's no info on any of the games, and I can't find any streaming channel that's covering them (or rather, that's covering them and has vods available). The RaptureGaming twitch channel doesn't have a single vod of its own tournament. I just want to know if there's great games to watch and/or interesting team compositions being employed, etc. If the tournaments aren't getting any coverage they won't sell any tickets and won't be able to succeed. Am I missing something here?
CDEC isn't really a tournament, it's an in-house league.

RGN has a liquipedia page. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Rapture_Gaming_Network_League_2013/2014
RGN is a weird tournament either way, it's like 10 months long with not an especially impressive prize pool and just SEA teams.

So no, dota tournament coverage isn't poor. Those 2 examples are, but you can still find any info you might need from other sites. http://www.joindota.com/en/coverages/4651-rgn-league-20132014#1691_prizes . As for vods who knows, they have a ticket so presumably they expect people to watch that, it's not like there's any sort of production behind the tournament.

I'm sure if you look at random SEA tournaments in any game, it's pretty much the same.
Once you Goblak...
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 31 2013 07:00 GMT
#75198
Haven't played Dota2 since the spring, but with me currently having low interest in Civ5 I'm gonna start playing again. Did I miss anything?
EZ4ENCE
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 31 2013 07:04 GMT
#75199
On August 31 2013 16:00 WindWolf wrote:
Haven't played Dota2 since the spring, but with me currently having low interest in Civ5 I'm gonna start playing again. Did I miss anything?

Sweden has better dota than China. Splitpushing is good strategy. Magnus is bad. That's about everything.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 31 2013 07:10 GMT
#75200
On August 31 2013 16:04 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 16:00 WindWolf wrote:
Haven't played Dota2 since the spring, but with me currently having low interest in Civ5 I'm gonna start playing again. Did I miss anything?

Sweden has better dota than China. Splitpushing is good strategy. Magnus is bad. That's about everything.

erm...when was split pushing bad? lol
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