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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 18:40:11
August 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#74821
On August 30 2013 03:28 Yoshi- wrote:
So PGG is playing in SLTV Qualifier

The second round proved to be impossible for PGG. He will have to Retry another time.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
hadang
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany941 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 18:48:16
August 29 2013 18:48 GMT
#74822
Just had 3 enjoyable solo-mm games in a row. Weird :D
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 29 2013 20:28 GMT
#74823
So many good streamers playing :o.

Aynone gonna make a thread for the new starladder season? I'm busy till the weekend.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
August 29 2013 20:39 GMT
#74824
so is there a place that has a list of all these streamers?
Flash Fan!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 29 2013 20:40 GMT
#74825
On August 30 2013 05:39 r_con wrote:
so is there a place that has a list of all these streamers?

389 posts....

Nah he can't be serious.
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toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
August 29 2013 20:43 GMT
#74826
So.. is the "public opinion" really that people dont want visible MMR or divisions and instead continue with the current model? Idk but whenever I read threads like this I get the feeling that the majority of reddit is against it. On the other side everyone I play with wants a ranking system badly. Lots of pros have stated the same. Why so much hate against it?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 20:46:55
August 29 2013 20:45 GMT
#74827
I would love a ranking system. I really like to be competitive and having a goal to reach would be awesome.

But I agree, the general consensus seems against it. I can understand that people might have anxiety about it, kind of like in sc2.
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 29 2013 20:48 GMT
#74828
i want complete public mmr but of course the amount of people crying means itll never happen

the complaints make no sense to me anyway people who will falme u for ur mmr will flame u regarldess
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 29 2013 20:52 GMT
#74829
I don't really see why pros would care either way. They have nothing to prove and they're all capable of judging how good someone is based on their play rather than a number.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 29 2013 20:54 GMT
#74830
Make ranked queue only solo and with a special picking mode and i'm fine with it, only solo and 5 make sense for ranked, CM for 5, needs something as strategic for solo. If it's ranked AP i am against it
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 29 2013 20:57 GMT
#74831
All ranking would do is make pubs where I feel like try harding seem more impactful, and ragers when i'm trolling more ragey.

Man, people were mad when I went for mass vanguards on my centuar yesterday.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 20:59:27
August 29 2013 20:58 GMT
#74832
On August 30 2013 05:52 TheYango wrote:
I don't really see why pros would care either way. They have nothing to prove and they're all capable of judging how good someone is based on their play rather than a number.


if you're a professional you're probably a pretty competitive person. Having a ranked option would offer depth and something to play around with during your never ending cycle of public games. Starcraft pros have nothing to prove either yet often set goals such as 'top10 GM' or getting #1 GM etc.



As far as ranked matchmaking goes, I'd like to have the option but I don't wanna debate it again because we've done it 900x. ^_^.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 29 2013 20:59 GMT
#74833
On August 30 2013 05:58 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 05:52 TheYango wrote:
I don't really see why pros would care either way. They have nothing to prove and they're all capable of judging how good someone is based on their play rather than a number.


if you're a professional you're probably a pretty competitive person. Having a ranked option would offer depth and something to play around with during your never ending cycle of public games. Starcraft pros have nothing to prove either yet often set goals such as 'top10 GM' or getting #1 GM etc.

Doubt it - it would matter to the tryhards that care about ixdl, but to the vast majority (dendis and etc), it wouldn't matter since they approach pubs completely differently (and more troll-y)
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
August 29 2013 21:02 GMT
#74834
Please not again. Ranked means people get stigmatized even more for trolling around, pub serious business guise what about no let me fuck around and stfu.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 29 2013 21:03 GMT
#74835
On August 30 2013 05:59 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 05:58 crms wrote:
On August 30 2013 05:52 TheYango wrote:
I don't really see why pros would care either way. They have nothing to prove and they're all capable of judging how good someone is based on their play rather than a number.


if you're a professional you're probably a pretty competitive person. Having a ranked option would offer depth and something to play around with during your never ending cycle of public games. Starcraft pros have nothing to prove either yet often set goals such as 'top10 GM' or getting #1 GM etc.

Doubt it - it would matter to the tryhards that care about ixdl, but to the vast majority (dendis and etc), it wouldn't matter since they approach pubs completely differently (and more troll-y)


I'm not saying it would impact pros more than tryhards trying to epeen over rank, I'm just saying I could see why Pro's might want a mode like this. Yango specifically said he doesn't see why Pro's would even care about having this mode or not, I merely posted a reason they might want it and then made an analogy to SC players.

Ladder will always been a grind-y practice arena for professional players, it will never be a metric to judge their skill and will have no meaning to them on the professional stage, but it doesn't mean they don't want to be high ranked or have something to do during their endless practice sessions.

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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 29 2013 21:06 GMT
#74836
On August 30 2013 06:02 Gheizen64 wrote:
Please not again. Ranked means people get stigmatized even more for trolling around, pub serious business guise what about no let me fuck around and stfu.

I thought ranked would mean less trolling.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 29 2013 21:07 GMT
#74837
1+1+1+1+1 vs 1+1+1+1+1 != 5vs5 when it comes to Dota.

tmm has a rating. The only form of competetive Dota at the highest level is 5n5, not a couple of random people thrown together. Want to be competetive yourself? Go find like-minded people and start playing tmm.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 21:10:44
August 29 2013 21:09 GMT
#74838
On August 30 2013 05:52 TheYango wrote:
I don't really see why pros would care either way. They have nothing to prove and they're all capable of judging how good someone is based on their play rather than a number.



It would make recruiting new blood way easier. AdmiralBulldog for example would have gotten noticed way sooner.



On August 30 2013 05:45 TheEmulator wrote:
I would love a ranking system. I really like to be competitive and having a goal to reach would be awesome.

But I agree, the general consensus seems against it. I can understand that people might have anxiety about it, kind of like in sc2.



Pretty much every poll I see is the exact opposite. It's just the most 'vocal' are the ones who oppose it.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 21:13:46
August 29 2013 21:12 GMT
#74839
On August 30 2013 06:09 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 05:52 TheYango wrote:
I don't really see why pros would care either way. They have nothing to prove and they're all capable of judging how good someone is based on their play rather than a number.



It would make recruiting new blood way easier. AdmiralBulldog for example would have gotten noticed way sooner.



Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 05:45 TheEmulator wrote:
I would love a ranking system. I really like to be competitive and having a goal to reach would be awesome.

But I agree, the general consensus seems against it. I can understand that people might have anxiety about it, kind of like in sc2.



Pretty much every poll I see is the exact opposite. It's just the most 'vocal' are the ones who oppose it.


That's a pretty dumb logic, if anything the "vocal" ones are in favor of it.

And people that vote in poll represent pretty much nothing valuable.

And the AdmiralBulldog part is just pure speculative you can't really be serious about that.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 29 2013 21:19 GMT
#74840
On August 30 2013 06:06 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 06:02 Gheizen64 wrote:
Please not again. Ranked means people get stigmatized even more for trolling around, pub serious business guise what about no let me fuck around and stfu.

I thought ranked would mean less trolling.

That's sascarm.
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