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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
"Demands more skill from X player" does not automatically make a mechanic more fun or interesting. of course it does. seeing a lone druid juke his bear into the trees to survive a chase or a broodmother carefully farming several jungle camps with invisible spiderlings is way more interesting to watch then 2 anti mage illusions walking straigth into the enemy base to chip 200 health from a tier 3 tower once every minute like clockwerk while the other team is powerless to do something about it. edit: this is really my final post for the moment gtg. | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:21 Irratonalys wrote: but i have , two pages ago. namely that it would demand more skill from the player who controls the illusions to prevent them from being fed, the same thing that makes broodmother , visage and lone druid gameplay intresting. that is fun/interesting to play and watch. of course their are balance issues involved we talked about that at length already. i got to go know , ill return to this thread in a few hours to counter any orther argument you might have. ![]() How are you going to balance that though? How do you differentiate between how PL illusions, Manta Illusions, Shadow Demon illusions, and Dark Seer Wall illusions work? Do they all give the same amount of gold? Do they give experience? Does it change based on illusion strength? I just don't see how its viable, aside from not really being interesting or necessary. @Saryph- That OP was... confusing? So many contradictions in one post hahaha. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote: Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment. http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556 This is hilarious. In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway. Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen): 51:44 (47:59) Jesus' Mom: x( yes 51:44 (48:00) DG.Fallen: talk shit? 51:50 (48:06) DG.Fallen: shut the fuck up kid 51:50 (48:06) PwnerHoya: you=nub 51:52 (48:07) DG.Fallen: goddamn 51:54 (48:09) Jesus' Mom: nono u're so bad 51:59 (48:14) DG.Fallen: your whole team is filled with fucking faggots isn't it? 52:05 (48:20) DG.Fallen: sad 52:07 (48:22) Life: yea naix noob 52:11 (48:27) DG.Fallen: that you're even allowed to play in this community 52:12 (48:28) Jesus' Mom: ![]() 52:14 (48:30) Jesus' Mom: report pls 52:26 (48:42) DG.Fallen: it's honestly sad that you are taking up a slot in this game community 52:29 (48:45) DG.Shoe: End this game 52:36 (48:52) DG.Fallen: someone else who loved dota 1 could have taken your spot Medu or Puge http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote: Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment. http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556 ahahahaha awesome. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:30 SKC wrote: This is hilarious. In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway. Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen): http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of) Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:33 Saryph wrote: In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of) Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment. His most played hero is Spirit Breaker, followed by Naix. He clearly deserves it. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 18 2013 01:06 Irratonalys wrote: i ahve been reading and there has not been an argument exept "it would nerf pl" how would it nerf him? it would alter his playstyle ill agree , but it wouldent nerf him and you still havent explained how illusions like nagas illusions or pls , or cks are fundamentaly different from treants , spiderlings or familiars. all youve said is "their different , deal with it" It would make the game worse, make styles based on illusion less viable and would limit play. Illusions are balanced to offer up no gold and in return they have flaws like less damage. Other abilities that let you spawn things have set damage values and are more valuable in general. Making them worth gold would remove the primary benefit of illusions, that they can cause damage independent of your hero and cannot give gold. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:33 Saryph wrote: In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of) Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment. I know, I think it might shock him that no one has been there ever and he is really just a massive jerk. But some people don't like that you can be punished for being a huge jerk. I think the best part if how he claims is an abuse of power, we Valve can do as they please and gives no fucks. I mean, if you tell a judge to fuck off, what do you think he does? He throws the book at you. Edit: OMG the freedom of speech arguments are the best, my god. They are quoting the French constitution. This thread is amazing. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On August 18 2013 03:58 Plansix wrote: I know, I think it might shock him that no one has been there ever and he is really just a massive jerk. But some people don't like that you can be punished for being a huge jerk. I think the best part if how he claims is an abuse of power, we Valve can do as they please and gives no fucks. I mean, if you tell a judge to fuck off, what do you think he does? He throws the book at you. Edit: OMG the freedom of speech arguments are the best, my god. They are quoting the French constitution. This thread is amazing. The best part for me was when he said he wouldn't have been such a massive ass if he had known it was really a valve employee who could do something about it. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
I really like all of this, karma FTW ![]() | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On August 18 2013 04:14 Wysp wrote: He's played stand-in for Liquid and Dignitas quite a bit.Who is MSS? Why is he going to EG? brax I understand they need 4 players, but I don't think I've even seen this MSS character on top MMR queue, unless someone wants to give me some aliases he used in the last year? I think he's young though. Under 18, could be wrong. | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
Regardless, fear + just about any 4 is a big step up for this EG squad. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On August 18 2013 04:14 Wysp wrote: Who is MSS? Why is he going to EG? brax I understand they need 4 players, but I don't think I've even seen this MSS character on top MMR queue, unless someone wants to give me some aliases he used in the last year? Mojo StormStout? | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
Also, I used to see this guy playing all the damn time. If he is in high school I dunno where he find the time. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On August 18 2013 04:20 Wysp wrote: Ah okay, he is pretty solid player but I do not believe he will help EG get deep in Ti4. Edit: I think with devotion he has the basis to be a top player in 2 years, but prospect are just that. Regardless DotA needs lots of new blood. Also, I used to see this guy playing all the damn time. If he is in high school I dunno where he find the time. he's in high school, he has all the time in the world, like else is there to do in high school anyway | ||
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