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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#72601
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 18:29:14
August 17 2013 18:26 GMT
#72602
"Demands more skill from X player" does not automatically make a mechanic more fun or interesting.


of course it does. seeing a lone druid juke his bear into the trees to survive a chase or a broodmother carefully farming several jungle camps with invisible spiderlings is way more interesting to watch then 2 anti mage illusions walking straigth into the enemy base to chip 200 health from a tier 3 tower once every minute like clockwerk while the other team is powerless to do something about it.

edit: this is really my final post for the moment gtg.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 18:32:03
August 17 2013 18:29 GMT
#72603
On August 18 2013 03:21 Irratonalys wrote:
Show nested quote +
You simply have not provided a reason for how bounty on illusions would make the game more interesting


but i have , two pages ago. namely that it would demand more skill from the player who controls the illusions to prevent them from being fed, the same thing that makes broodmother , visage and lone druid gameplay intresting. that is fun/interesting to play and watch. of course their are balance issues involved we talked about that at length already.

i got to go know , ill return to this thread in a few hours to counter any orther argument you might have.


How are you going to balance that though? How do you differentiate between how PL illusions, Manta Illusions, Shadow Demon illusions, and Dark Seer Wall illusions work? Do they all give the same amount of gold? Do they give experience? Does it change based on illusion strength?

I just don't see how its viable, aside from not really being interesting or necessary.

@Saryph- That OP was... confusing? So many contradictions in one post hahaha.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#72604
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote:
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556

This is hilarious.

In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway.

Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen):
51:44 (47:59) Jesus' Mom: x( yes
51:44 (48:00) DG.Fallen: talk shit?
51:50 (48:06) DG.Fallen: shut the fuck up kid
51:50 (48:06) PwnerHoya: you=nub
51:52 (48:07) DG.Fallen: goddamn
51:54 (48:09) Jesus' Mom: nono u're so bad
51:59 (48:14) DG.Fallen: your whole team is filled with fucking faggots isn't it?
52:05 (48:20) DG.Fallen: sad
52:07 (48:22) Life: yea naix noob
52:11 (48:27) DG.Fallen: that you're even allowed to play in this community
52:12 (48:28) Jesus' Mom:
52:14 (48:30) Jesus' Mom: report pls
52:26 (48:42) DG.Fallen: it's honestly sad that you are taking up a slot in this game community
52:29 (48:45) DG.Shoe: End this game
52:36 (48:52) DG.Fallen: someone else who loved dota 1 could have taken your spot Medu or Puge

http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 17 2013 18:32 GMT
#72605
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote:
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556

ahahahaha awesome.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#72606
On August 18 2013 03:30 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote:
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556

This is hilarious.

In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway.

Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen):
Show nested quote +
51:44 (47:59) Jesus' Mom: x( yes
51:44 (48:00) DG.Fallen: talk shit?
51:50 (48:06) DG.Fallen: shut the fuck up kid
51:50 (48:06) PwnerHoya: you=nub
51:52 (48:07) DG.Fallen: goddamn
51:54 (48:09) Jesus' Mom: nono u're so bad
51:59 (48:14) DG.Fallen: your whole team is filled with fucking faggots isn't it?
52:05 (48:20) DG.Fallen: sad
52:07 (48:22) Life: yea naix noob
52:11 (48:27) DG.Fallen: that you're even allowed to play in this community
52:12 (48:28) Jesus' Mom:
52:14 (48:30) Jesus' Mom: report pls
52:26 (48:42) DG.Fallen: it's honestly sad that you are taking up a slot in this game community
52:29 (48:45) DG.Shoe: End this game
52:36 (48:52) DG.Fallen: someone else who loved dota 1 could have taken your spot Medu or Puge

http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc


In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of)
Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 17 2013 18:37 GMT
#72607
On August 18 2013 03:33 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:30 SKC wrote:
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote:
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556

This is hilarious.

In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway.

Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen):
51:44 (47:59) Jesus' Mom: x( yes
51:44 (48:00) DG.Fallen: talk shit?
51:50 (48:06) DG.Fallen: shut the fuck up kid
51:50 (48:06) PwnerHoya: you=nub
51:52 (48:07) DG.Fallen: goddamn
51:54 (48:09) Jesus' Mom: nono u're so bad
51:59 (48:14) DG.Fallen: your whole team is filled with fucking faggots isn't it?
52:05 (48:20) DG.Fallen: sad
52:07 (48:22) Life: yea naix noob
52:11 (48:27) DG.Fallen: that you're even allowed to play in this community
52:12 (48:28) Jesus' Mom:
52:14 (48:30) Jesus' Mom: report pls
52:26 (48:42) DG.Fallen: it's honestly sad that you are taking up a slot in this game community
52:29 (48:45) DG.Shoe: End this game
52:36 (48:52) DG.Fallen: someone else who loved dota 1 could have taken your spot Medu or Puge

http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc


In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of)
Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment.

His most played hero is Spirit Breaker, followed by Naix. He clearly deserves it.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 18:50:16
August 17 2013 18:50 GMT
#72608
The comments under that valve employee profile are hilarious rofl. Personally i think it is a good thing, employee power tripping or not, some people really deserved that.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 17 2013 18:55 GMT
#72609
On August 18 2013 01:06 Irratonalys wrote:
Show nested quote +

This has been said by a number of people so far, if you havnt heard a good argument its because you havnt been reading.


i ahve been reading and there has not been an argument exept "it would nerf pl" how would it nerf him? it would alter his playstyle ill agree , but it wouldent nerf him

and you still havent explained how illusions like nagas illusions or pls , or cks are fundamentaly different from treants , spiderlings or familiars. all youve said is "their different , deal with it"

It would make the game worse, make styles based on illusion less viable and would limit play. Illusions are balanced to offer up no gold and in return they have flaws like less damage. Other abilities that let you spawn things have set damage values and are more valuable in general.

Making them worth gold would remove the primary benefit of illusions, that they can cause damage independent of your hero and cannot give gold.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:02:36
August 17 2013 18:58 GMT
#72610
On August 18 2013 03:33 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:30 SKC wrote:
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote:
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556

This is hilarious.

In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway.

Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen):
51:44 (47:59) Jesus' Mom: x( yes
51:44 (48:00) DG.Fallen: talk shit?
51:50 (48:06) DG.Fallen: shut the fuck up kid
51:50 (48:06) PwnerHoya: you=nub
51:52 (48:07) DG.Fallen: goddamn
51:54 (48:09) Jesus' Mom: nono u're so bad
51:59 (48:14) DG.Fallen: your whole team is filled with fucking faggots isn't it?
52:05 (48:20) DG.Fallen: sad
52:07 (48:22) Life: yea naix noob
52:11 (48:27) DG.Fallen: that you're even allowed to play in this community
52:12 (48:28) Jesus' Mom:
52:14 (48:30) Jesus' Mom: report pls
52:26 (48:42) DG.Fallen: it's honestly sad that you are taking up a slot in this game community
52:29 (48:45) DG.Shoe: End this game
52:36 (48:52) DG.Fallen: someone else who loved dota 1 could have taken your spot Medu or Puge

http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc


In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of)
Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment.

I know, I think it might shock him that no one has been there ever and he is really just a massive jerk. But some people don't like that you can be punished for being a huge jerk. I think the best part if how he claims is an abuse of power, we Valve can do as they please and gives no fucks.

I mean, if you tell a judge to fuck off, what do you think he does? He throws the book at you.

Edit: OMG the freedom of speech arguments are the best, my god. They are quoting the French constitution. This thread is amazing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 17 2013 19:02 GMT
#72611
my god, support naga is fucking broken lol
POGGERS
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 17 2013 19:04 GMT
#72612
On August 18 2013 03:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:33 Saryph wrote:
On August 18 2013 03:30 SKC wrote:
On August 18 2013 03:23 Saryph wrote:
Saw it on twitter, thought I'd link it here for everyone's enjoyment.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=102556

This is hilarious.

In short, if someone doesn't want to read the story, the OP and his friends are massive dicks in a game with a Valve employee (he wasn't aware of this fact). The Valve employee even warns him to stop talking shit. In the end, he gets a 2 month mute and 6 days LPQ. I don't know his previous history, so I can't say if 2 months is excessive, but it's hilarious anyway.

Here's a quick example from the chat (he is DG.Fallen):
51:44 (47:59) Jesus' Mom: x( yes
51:44 (48:00) DG.Fallen: talk shit?
51:50 (48:06) DG.Fallen: shut the fuck up kid
51:50 (48:06) PwnerHoya: you=nub
51:52 (48:07) DG.Fallen: goddamn
51:54 (48:09) Jesus' Mom: nono u're so bad
51:59 (48:14) DG.Fallen: your whole team is filled with fucking faggots isn't it?
52:05 (48:20) DG.Fallen: sad
52:07 (48:22) Life: yea naix noob
52:11 (48:27) DG.Fallen: that you're even allowed to play in this community
52:12 (48:28) Jesus' Mom:
52:14 (48:30) Jesus' Mom: report pls
52:26 (48:42) DG.Fallen: it's honestly sad that you are taking up a slot in this game community
52:29 (48:45) DG.Shoe: End this game
52:36 (48:52) DG.Fallen: someone else who loved dota 1 could have taken your spot Medu or Puge

http://pastebin.com/pqSAYkjc


In another post he said he hasn't been muted in a month and no LPQ for 2 weeks! (Like if that is something to be proud of)
Also he tells everyone he has 1k hours in dota 2, and 3k in dota, as if that should protect him from punishment.

I know, I think it might shock him that no one has been there ever and he is really just a massive jerk. But some people don't like that you can be punished for being a huge jerk. I think the best part if how he claims is an abuse of power, we Valve can do as they please and gives no fucks.

I mean, if you tell a judge to fuck off, what do you think he does? He throws the book at you.

Edit: OMG the freedom of speech arguments are the best, my god. They are quoting the French constitution. This thread is amazing.


The best part for me was when he said he wouldn't have been such a massive ass if he had known it was really a valve employee who could do something about it.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:15:33
August 17 2013 19:10 GMT
#72613
Honestly this should be a wake-up call for this kid before he runs into one of these russians who will just find out where he lives and kick his ass IRL.

I really like all of this, karma FTW
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
August 17 2013 19:14 GMT
#72614
Who is MSS? Why is he going to EG? brax I understand they need 4 players, but I don't think I've even seen this MSS character on top MMR queue, unless someone wants to give me some aliases he used in the last year?
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:17:35
August 17 2013 19:16 GMT
#72615
On August 18 2013 04:14 Wysp wrote:
Who is MSS? Why is he going to EG? brax I understand they need 4 players, but I don't think I've even seen this MSS character on top MMR queue, unless someone wants to give me some aliases he used in the last year?
He's played stand-in for Liquid and Dignitas quite a bit.

I think he's young though. Under 18, could be wrong.
Once you Goblak...
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:19:31
August 17 2013 19:18 GMT
#72616
Young is good. Young learns and has fast hands. Young isn't sick of being inside 18 hours a day playing video games.

Regardless, fear + just about any 4 is a big step up for this EG squad.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 17 2013 19:18 GMT
#72617
Lol that thread reminded me of a recent game I had where my team mate was just flaming everyone and calling them beaners...
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:19:45
August 17 2013 19:19 GMT
#72618
On August 18 2013 04:14 Wysp wrote:
Who is MSS? Why is he going to EG? brax I understand they need 4 players, but I don't think I've even seen this MSS character on top MMR queue, unless someone wants to give me some aliases he used in the last year?


Mojo StormStout?
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:24:09
August 17 2013 19:20 GMT
#72619
Ah okay, he is pretty solid player but I do not believe he will help EG get deep in Ti4. Edit: I think with devotion he has the basis to be a top player in 2 years, but prospect are just that. Regardless DotA needs lots of new blood.

Also, I used to see this guy playing all the damn time. If he is in high school I dunno where he find the time.

an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 17 2013 19:25 GMT
#72620
On August 18 2013 04:20 Wysp wrote:
Ah okay, he is pretty solid player but I do not believe he will help EG get deep in Ti4. Edit: I think with devotion he has the basis to be a top player in 2 years, but prospect are just that. Regardless DotA needs lots of new blood.

Also, I used to see this guy playing all the damn time. If he is in high school I dunno where he find the time.


he's in high school, he has all the time in the world, like else is there to do in high school anyway
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