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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 17 2013 03:43 GMT
#72501
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
August 17 2013 03:57 GMT
#72502
what am i reading
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 17 2013 04:00 GMT
#72503
i should stop playing AP, its just a bad time

fuck, a few days ago i had to go against wisp CK, and it was awful

I'm just gonna change my que to AR/RD/SD
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 17 2013 04:03 GMT
#72504
On August 17 2013 13:00 Shaella wrote:
i should stop playing AP, its just a bad time

fuck, a few days ago i had to go against wisp CK, and it was awful

I'm just gonna change my que to AR/RD/SD

another reason I play CM
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 17 2013 04:04 GMT
#72505
On August 17 2013 13:03 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:00 Shaella wrote:
i should stop playing AP, its just a bad time

fuck, a few days ago i had to go against wisp CK, and it was awful

I'm just gonna change my que to AR/RD/SD

another reason I play CM

I'm too scared to CM
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Lovely So Handsome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States197 Posts
August 17 2013 04:23 GMT
#72506
On August 17 2013 12:43 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.


Hiding your draft can be good. Lion only gives away aggression.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051754686
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 04:52:09
August 17 2013 04:48 GMT
#72507
On August 17 2013 13:04 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:03 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:00 Shaella wrote:
i should stop playing AP, its just a bad time

fuck, a few days ago i had to go against wisp CK, and it was awful

I'm just gonna change my que to AR/RD/SD

another reason I play CM

I'm too scared to CM

Random draft all the way. Its for people who like to play real Dota 2, not for those who like to play carries all the time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 17 2013 04:49 GMT
#72508
i wish i got accused of hacking and using macros when armlet toggling fast like eternalenvy does
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 17 2013 04:53 GMT
#72509
On August 17 2013 13:23 Lovely So Handsome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:43 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.


Hiding your draft can be good. Lion only gives away aggression.

It also gives away Bat, Weaver, Alch, OD, DS, Nyx, Visage, and Wisp.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 17 2013 04:53 GMT
#72510
On August 17 2013 13:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:04 Shaella wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:03 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:00 Shaella wrote:
i should stop playing AP, its just a bad time

fuck, a few days ago i had to go against wisp CK, and it was awful

I'm just gonna change my que to AR/RD/SD

another reason I play CM

I'm too scared to CM

Random draft all the way. Its for people who like to play real Dota 2, not for those who like to play carries all the time.

random draft is my favorite, but i sometimes play with friends and they're like UGH LETS JUST PLAY AP
and then i forget to change things
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 04:58:32
August 17 2013 04:58 GMT
#72511
On August 17 2013 13:49 FinestHour wrote:
i wish i got accused of hacking and using macros when armlet toggling fast like eternalenvy does

heh, i have a bad habit of triple tapping my armlet instead of double. especially after playing fighting games because i'm bad at them and have to mash to get timings for combos
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
August 17 2013 04:58 GMT
#72512
On August 17 2013 13:53 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:23 Lovely So Handsome wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:43 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.


Hiding your draft can be good. Lion only gives away aggression.

It also gives away Bat, Weaver, Alch, OD, DS, Nyx, Visage, and Wisp.


You're playing public CM games. I wouldn't be overly worried about any picks the enemy can do.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 17 2013 05:05 GMT
#72513
On August 17 2013 13:58 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:53 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:23 Lovely So Handsome wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:43 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.


Hiding your draft can be good. Lion only gives away aggression.

It also gives away Bat, Weaver, Alch, OD, DS, Nyx, Visage, and Wisp.


You're playing public CM games. I wouldn't be overly worried about any picks the enemy can do.

Those heroes are just plain good. There is indeed an advantage to playing good heroes in pub games.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2013 05:34 GMT
#72514
On August 17 2013 14:05 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:58 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:53 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:23 Lovely So Handsome wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:43 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.


Hiding your draft can be good. Lion only gives away aggression.

It also gives away Bat, Weaver, Alch, OD, DS, Nyx, Visage, and Wisp.


You're playing public CM games. I wouldn't be overly worried about any picks the enemy can do.

Those heroes are just plain good. There is indeed an advantage to playing good heroes in pub games.

I don't think visage or Wisp are good in CM for pubs. you have no idea if you have a teammate who can PLAY visage, and wisp is just bad in pubs.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
August 17 2013 05:41 GMT
#72515
Im not playing CM if I'm not the captain hue hue hue hue
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 17 2013 05:47 GMT
#72516
i cant really stand to play anything other than AP, i swear anytime I get into RD/SD/AR it's a tier below my normal matchmaking. I have this theory based on 100% anecdotal evidence that worse people queue for those modes because they blame OP hero picks for their loses in AP and go hide in RD/SD/AR modes. When in reality they lose because they aren't very good but that's too hard to admit.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2013 05:47 GMT
#72517
On August 17 2013 14:47 crms wrote:
i cant really stand to play anything other than AP, i swear anytime I get into RD/SD/AR it's a tier below my normal matchmaking. I have this theory based on 100% anecdotal evidence that worse people queue for those modes because they blame OP hero picks for their loses in AP and go hide in RD/SD/AR modes. When in reality they lose because they aren't very good but that's too hard to admit.

I feel pretty strongly the same people also complain about the matchmaking.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
August 17 2013 05:50 GMT
#72518
Its not fun seeing OD/WL/Magnus/Alc each games T____T
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 17 2013 06:04 GMT
#72519
On August 17 2013 14:34 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:05 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:58 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:53 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 13:23 Lovely So Handsome wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:43 Acritter wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's wrong with second pick Lion?

In the US East CM pub metagame at my level, there is no situation where you would be unable to pick up that same Lion as your third, fourth, or fifth pick. There are much higher-priority heroes that deserve that slot.


Hiding your draft can be good. Lion only gives away aggression.

It also gives away Bat, Weaver, Alch, OD, DS, Nyx, Visage, and Wisp.


You're playing public CM games. I wouldn't be overly worried about any picks the enemy can do.

Those heroes are just plain good. There is indeed an advantage to playing good heroes in pub games.

I don't think visage or Wisp are good in CM for pubs. you have no idea if you have a teammate who can PLAY visage, and wisp is just bad in pubs.

Wisp is plenty good in pubs. I've coordinated with someone that I had no voice contact with perfectly. As for Visage...

Have you heard of trying to talk to your team?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
August 17 2013 07:12 GMT
#72520
I usually queue RD/SD because I like playing different heroes anyway and maybe it's just me but I feel like people playing those modes are a bit more laid back.
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