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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 18:44:40
August 12 2013 18:42 GMT
#71421
On August 13 2013 03:37 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:11 Shaella wrote:
teams least likely to shuffle in the scene seem to be to be Fnatic, TL, and Alliance

Fnatic is Fnatic, I find them unlikely to change their lineup

I think TL has a really strong lineup with a lot of good interpersonal strength between the members, it'd be a shame if 1 went.

Alliance.. I just don't see them swapping anyone out.

everyone else is liable to shakeup

id put Orange as pretty unlikely to shuffle.

So long as KyXy doesn't commit suicide over a $300K+ aegis deny (or $1.1M if they had beat alliance).

Being serious, I agree I don't think orange is changing anything (although I'd love to see the icex3 and mushi as teammates, their rapport during the 1v1 finals was really cool).

E: To be fair, its not like that aegis deny was a "pivotal moment" it was simply an unfortunate occurrence, and without it happening it is exceedingly hard to see Orange losing. Orange still were way ahead without the aegis but they let Na'Vi back into the game.
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
August 12 2013 18:49 GMT
#71422
On August 13 2013 03:37 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:34 Resisty wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:32 IPA wrote:
Can someone explain to an SC2 dood what "rat dota" implies? Thanks.

Rat doto is like when you have a big deathball and want to fight but your opponent only runs away and drops in your base.

Ohhhhhh

So it means not being stupid



Pretty much. but the plebs want to see the blood!
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
August 12 2013 18:51 GMT
#71423
On August 13 2013 03:37 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:34 Resisty wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:32 IPA wrote:
Can someone explain to an SC2 dood what "rat dota" implies? Thanks.

Rat doto is like when you have a big deathball and want to fight but your opponent only runs away and drops in your base.

Ohhhhhh

So it means not being stupid

Well it is the smarter strategy when you can't fight :p
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 12 2013 18:53 GMT
#71424
On August 13 2013 03:37 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:34 Resisty wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:32 IPA wrote:
Can someone explain to an SC2 dood what "rat dota" implies? Thanks.

Rat doto is like when you have a big deathball and want to fight but your opponent only runs away and drops in your base.

Ohhhhhh

So it means not being stupid

Well, generally teams that get called out on it specifically draft to avoid fights and split push.

Still, it's a legitimate strategy, albeit one that's not overly exciting to most people.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Paegan
Profile Joined June 2013
United States75 Posts
August 12 2013 18:53 GMT
#71425
On August 13 2013 03:49 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:37 Acritter wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:34 Resisty wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:32 IPA wrote:
Can someone explain to an SC2 dood what "rat dota" implies? Thanks.

Rat doto is like when you have a big deathball and want to fight but your opponent only runs away and drops in your base.

Ohhhhhh

So it means not being stupid



Pretty much. but the plebs want to see the blood!


Wouldn't it be proles?
o 3 o
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2013 18:58 GMT
#71426
On August 13 2013 03:53 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:37 Acritter wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:34 Resisty wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:32 IPA wrote:
Can someone explain to an SC2 dood what "rat dota" implies? Thanks.

Rat doto is like when you have a big deathball and want to fight but your opponent only runs away and drops in your base.

Ohhhhhh

So it means not being stupid

Well, generally teams that get called out on it specifically draft to avoid fights and split push.

Still, it's a legitimate strategy, albeit one that's not overly exciting to most people.


It is the thing that saves the game from becoming man fights all the time and people just farming up waiting for the big fight and relying totally on item timings. It is a way to play that game that requires a play to expose themselves to being ganked and keep the game interesting.

People don’t like it because it isn’t as exciting as a gank based style. However, if you play a lot of Dota 2, you know how tense push styles can be and it is stressful to watch.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 12 2013 19:02 GMT
#71427
On August 13 2013 03:21 PassiveAce wrote:
Beesa has been one of those front page players since forever.

every noob is front page player these days, ud be surprised what terrible players are in the first 10 pages nowadays, it really changed
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 19:17:53
August 12 2013 19:15 GMT
#71428
some random dota-related thoughts:

TI boosts sales of purple gimp suits by 1000x
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 12 2013 19:18 GMT
#71429
On August 13 2013 02:06 FakeDeath wrote:
Navi is the Yellow in BW.


Funny thing is that Navi trademark colour is also yellow.

And the server is down for some time now.
Valve please fix.

Then choose from your kings of silver with 1 championship :

Fantasy or Stork
In the woods, there lurks..
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 12 2013 19:19 GMT
#71430
Aegis of Champions =/= Aegis of the Immortal
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 12 2013 19:20 GMT
#71431
On August 13 2013 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Aegis of Champions =/= Aegis of the Immortal


Yeah, just realized the difference in name. Model is still underwhelming as hell.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
August 12 2013 19:50 GMT
#71432
On August 13 2013 03:12 tpmraven wrote:
http://dotabuff.com/players/43908335

how is that even possible... it looks like he only solo q's as well.


He stacks.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
August 12 2013 19:52 GMT
#71433
On August 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:37 Nocticate wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:11 Shaella wrote:
teams least likely to shuffle in the scene seem to be to be Fnatic, TL, and Alliance

Fnatic is Fnatic, I find them unlikely to change their lineup

I think TL has a really strong lineup with a lot of good interpersonal strength between the members, it'd be a shame if 1 went.

Alliance.. I just don't see them swapping anyone out.

everyone else is liable to shakeup

id put Orange as pretty unlikely to shuffle.

So long as KyXy doesn't commit suicide over a $300K+ aegis deny (or $1.1M if they had beat alliance).

Being serious, I agree I don't think orange is changing anything (although I'd love to see the icex3 and mushi as teammates, their rapport during the 1v1 finals was really cool).

E: To be fair, its not like that aegis deny was a "pivotal moment" it was simply an unfortunate occurrence, and without it happening it is exceedingly hard to see Orange losing. Orange still were way ahead without the aegis but they let Na'Vi back into the game.


Possession of the Aegis makes a lot of options available.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#71434
On August 13 2013 04:52 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:37 Nocticate wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:11 Shaella wrote:
teams least likely to shuffle in the scene seem to be to be Fnatic, TL, and Alliance

Fnatic is Fnatic, I find them unlikely to change their lineup

I think TL has a really strong lineup with a lot of good interpersonal strength between the members, it'd be a shame if 1 went.

Alliance.. I just don't see them swapping anyone out.

everyone else is liable to shakeup

id put Orange as pretty unlikely to shuffle.

So long as KyXy doesn't commit suicide over a $300K+ aegis deny (or $1.1M if they had beat alliance).

Being serious, I agree I don't think orange is changing anything (although I'd love to see the icex3 and mushi as teammates, their rapport during the 1v1 finals was really cool).

E: To be fair, its not like that aegis deny was a "pivotal moment" it was simply an unfortunate occurrence, and without it happening it is exceedingly hard to see Orange losing. Orange still were way ahead without the aegis but they let Na'Vi back into the game.


Possession of the Aegis makes a lot of options available.

On August 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
without [the aegis deny] happening it is exceedingly hard to see Orange losing

All I mean is that you can't only pin the loss on that. Orange could still have won, they remained ahead at that point.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
August 12 2013 20:09 GMT
#71435
On August 13 2013 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 04:52 Pseudoku wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:37 Nocticate wrote:
On August 13 2013 03:11 Shaella wrote:
teams least likely to shuffle in the scene seem to be to be Fnatic, TL, and Alliance

Fnatic is Fnatic, I find them unlikely to change their lineup

I think TL has a really strong lineup with a lot of good interpersonal strength between the members, it'd be a shame if 1 went.

Alliance.. I just don't see them swapping anyone out.

everyone else is liable to shakeup

id put Orange as pretty unlikely to shuffle.

So long as KyXy doesn't commit suicide over a $300K+ aegis deny (or $1.1M if they had beat alliance).

Being serious, I agree I don't think orange is changing anything (although I'd love to see the icex3 and mushi as teammates, their rapport during the 1v1 finals was really cool).

E: To be fair, its not like that aegis deny was a "pivotal moment" it was simply an unfortunate occurrence, and without it happening it is exceedingly hard to see Orange losing. Orange still were way ahead without the aegis but they let Na'Vi back into the game.


Possession of the Aegis makes a lot of options available.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
without [the aegis deny] happening it is exceedingly hard to see Orange losing

All I mean is that you can't only pin the loss on that. Orange could still have won, they remained ahead at that point.


Yes, they made some big mistakes in fights after it, but not having the aegis limited when and where they could fight.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 20:12:55
August 12 2013 20:12 GMT
#71436
Do most people here play with the solo queue option on?

Lately it's either get stomped or stomp them... I wonder if it's because of this option?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 12 2013 20:14 GMT
#71437
All that stuff's confirmation bias most likely..
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 12 2013 20:15 GMT
#71438
On August 13 2013 05:12 trinxified wrote:
Do most people here play with the solo queue option on?

Lately it's either get stomped or stomp them... I wonder if it's because of this option?



Stomps regularly occur because people do not always pick optimal picks.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 12 2013 20:17 GMT
#71439
On August 13 2013 05:15 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 05:12 trinxified wrote:
Do most people here play with the solo queue option on?

Lately it's either get stomped or stomp them... I wonder if it's because of this option?



Stomps regularly occur because people do not always pick optimal picks.


Well I don't want a TI3 every game and pick NP, Bat, DS, etc...
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 20:17:46
August 12 2013 20:17 GMT
#71440
People virtually never pick optimal picks. Doesnt really work in AP.
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